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Reflections on Palantir

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479 points freditup | 1 comments | 16 Oct 24 02:18 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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giraffe_lady[dead post] ◴[16 Oct 24 17:35 UTC] No.41861626[source]▶
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Manuel_D[dead post] ◴[16 Oct 24 17:41 UTC] No.41861677[source]▶
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torlok ◴[16 Oct 24 17:59 UTC] No.41861850[source]▶
How can you type something like this after the numerous independent reports of IDF behaviour, civilian casualties in Gaza, and the treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank? I can't believe anybody can just ignore reality like that.
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Manuel_D ◴[16 Oct 24 18:10 UTC] No.41861957[source]▶
Can you define the term "genocide"?
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tsimionescu ◴[16 Oct 24 18:18 UTC] No.41862034[source]▶
The deliberate killing or displacement of a significant part of a population, typically on ethnic or religious grounds. As some examples, Nazi Germany's slaughter of Jewish, Romani, Armenian, gay and other minority people. Serbian slaughter of Muslim people in Kosovo, most notably at Srebenica. Israeli slaughter of Arabic people living in Gaza.
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SpicyLemonZest[dead post] ◴[16 Oct 24 18:26 UTC] No.41862133[source]▶
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tsimionescu ◴[16 Oct 24 19:24 UTC] No.41862829[source]▶
What ethnic cleansing of the Arab world's entire Jewish population are you talking about, specifically? Just like in Europe, there have been many waves of better and worse relationships, from relative acceptance to Nazi-like persecution, in various places and at various times, even looking just at the last hundred years.

Still, to a great extent, the biggest contributing factor to the current extremely low Jewish populations in the Middle East outside Israel has been migration or flight to Israel. For example, in Iran, even before the Islamic Revolution and the wave of antisemitic persecution that followed it, which could be described at least as ethnic cleansing if not outright genocide, there had been significant migration of Iranian Jews to Israel.

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1. jedimind ◴[16 Oct 24 20:28 UTC] No.41863519[source]▶
The situation described in Iran after the Islamic Revolution did not even remotely constitute genocide or similar. Genocide is defined as the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group—in whole or in part. While the Jewish community in Iran has faced discrimination, emigration, and instances of harassment and persecution, these conditions do not amount to genocide. The term genocide involves deliberate acts aimed at the physical extermination of a group, and this has not been the case with the Jewish community in Iran, despite the difficulties they have faced. The Iranian government officially recognizes Judaism, allows for Jewish religious practices, and Jews also have a reserved seat in Parliament. There has never been widespread killings or any organized campaign targeting Jews specifically for eradication in Iran, except for isolated cases against jews accused of spying for America and/or Israel. None of this was ethnic-cleansing or genocide.

The establishment of Israel in 1948 and its Law of Return, which grants automatic citizenship to Jews worldwide, made Israel an appealing destination for many Jewish emigrants from Iran, that's why the overwhelming majority emigrated, but there were also substantial numbers who resettled in the United States, particularly in cities like Los Angeles and New York.