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DrillShopper ◴[] No.41859266[source]
I guess the flip side of this is that you look like a fucking dork.
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1. hbn ◴[] No.41863403[source]
To their credit, Apple users save a lot of money by living rent-free in your head.

99% of Apple users are not thinking about how much better they are than other people for buying the phone or computer they did. They just bought it because it's the obvious choice and they've had good experiences with it in the past.

Every time an anti-Apple zealout busts out the spec sheets to prove why alternatives are so much better, there's about 8000 gotchas and usability issues that aren't worth the tradeoff for most people. You're free to not think the tradeoffs of Apple devices are worth it for you, but for everyone else (most people) they make the best option that puts up the minimal amount of fighting and a handful of workflows that you simply can't recreate in other ecosystems without dozens of asterisks.

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2. valval ◴[] No.41863415[source]
It’s funny because I was you for 25 years. I then got an iPhone and an M1 MacBook and never looked back. The Apple ecosystem doesn’t have competition, and products are very high quality.

Then again, Apple is one of the most valuable companies in the world. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to conclude that they’re offering something valuable.

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3. DrillShopper ◴[] No.41864074{3}[source]
https://youtu.be/0la5DBtOVNI

Relatedly, if other companies make better, less expensive products then why don't consumers buy them?

The customer is always right in matters of taste. Just because you don't like the taste doesn't mean they're wrong about their own situation.

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4. righthand ◴[] No.41864078[source]
Every time an Apple zealot busts out counter points to prove their purchasing choice is better there’s about 8000 gotchas of what Apple won’t let you do on their device that aren’t worth the trade off for most people. You’re free to think the tradeoffs of non-Apple devices aren’t worth it for you, but for everyone else (most people since most people don’t own an Apple device) they make the best option that puts up minimal amount of fighting to customize your device and use it how you like without restriction. A handful of workflows that you simply can’t get in the Apple ecosystems without dozens of Apple zealots telling you’re wrong for choosing something else and bragging that their choice is somehow superior.
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5. righthand ◴[] No.41864155{4}[source]
They do…is that belief that people don’t buy other products that aren’t overpriced a part of the cult beliefs? Do you have a passive aggressive youtube video for that idea that allows you to passively be a dick about the products you don’t buy?

No it doesn’t mean they are wrong, just closed minded.

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6. ryandrake ◴[] No.41864332{3}[source]
Many people simply like one product, and many other people like another product. Almost nobody is a "fan" or a "zealot."
7. gamblor956 ◴[] No.41864566[source]
99% of Apple users are not thinking about how much better they are than other people for buying the phone or computer they did.

You must not spend any time around teenagers. Teenagers absolutely judge people for not having iPhones.

best option that puts up the minimal amount of fighting and a handful of workflows that you simply can't recreate in other ecosystems without dozens of asterisks.

This is backwards.

My mentees (and on the other end of the age scale, my in-laws) are always shocked that I can do something on my Android in seconds that takes them minutes on an iPhone...assuming they can even do it on their iPhones at all.

8. gamblor956 ◴[] No.41864578[source]
Apple is one of the most valuable companies in the world. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to conclude that they’re offering something valuable.

So is Louis Vitton...and a whole host of companies that don't offer anything valuable beyond status-based luxury goods.

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9. albumen ◴[] No.41864669{5}[source]
You're carrying a lot of anger, making reductionist and polarizing arguments that sound like Mac vs PC platform wars from the 90s. I hope you find a more balanced approach to dealing with the world around you.
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10. Klonoar ◴[] No.41864786{3}[source]
So… you’re just giving up entirely on responding to them in a way that doesn’t read like an emotional outburst?
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11. Wytwwww ◴[] No.41868511{3}[source]
> Every time an Apple zealot bust

an (imaginary) Apple zealot?

> of Apple zealots telling you’re wrong for choosing something else and bragging that their choice is somehow superior

Except that hardly ever happens. Unlike the opposite [as we are witnessing in this very thread].

Why are you so obsessed with Apple, though? Seems pretty weird. I mean even weirder than being an actual "Apple zealot"..

12. valval ◴[] No.41873315{3}[source]
You can’t just say that without acknowledging the fact that people find their products valuable enough to purchase.
13. righthand ◴[] No.41882519{6}[source]
Nice, this is the compensating I’m talking about. It must be everyone else is angry right?
14. righthand ◴[] No.41882542{4}[source]
Read it however you want. Take your application of emotion out of it and I’m just responding to them by swapping words.