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Reflections on Palantir

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479 points freditup | 1 comments | 16 Oct 24 02:18 UTC | HN request time: 0.34s | source
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giraffe_lady[dead post] ◴[16 Oct 24 17:35 UTC] No.41861626[source]▶
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Manuel_D[dead post] ◴[16 Oct 24 17:41 UTC] No.41861677[source]▶
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dagw ◴[16 Oct 24 18:11 UTC] No.41861966[source]▶
Without getting into the debate about whether or not what is happening is a "genocide" or not, your data proves nothing since it cuts off before the events in questions started. Why not post an updated graph and include the number up through end of September 2024 so that it would at least be a relevant data point to the discussion?
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Manuel_D ◴[16 Oct 24 18:12 UTC] No.41861979[source]▶
Even the most pessimistic estimates of casualties in Gaza are on the order of tens of thousands. That is not going to appreciably change the population.
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tsimionescu ◴[16 Oct 24 18:14 UTC] No.41861993[source]▶
No, the most pessimistic casualty numbers are in the 180k+ range, including all of the missing people hidden in the rubble. The 45+k numbers include only people confirmed killed.
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Manuel_D ◴[16 Oct 24 18:22 UTC] No.41862076[source]▶
Even the Palstinian Health Ministry's own count is 45,000: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-death-toll-ho...
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dagw ◴[16 Oct 24 18:28 UTC] No.41862158[source]▶
The 180k number people cite includes deaths from starvation, disease and other causes that can be attributed to secondary effects of the military campaign.
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Manuel_D ◴[16 Oct 24 18:32 UTC] No.41862199[source]▶
You do remember what event kicked off this military campaign just over a year ago, right? The blockade is part of the effort to press Hamas into releasing the remaining hostages. If the bulk of the deaths are due to starvation and disease stemming from the blockade, then the culpability of this "genocide" lies with Hamas.
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1. dagw ◴[16 Oct 24 18:51 UTC] No.41862451[source]▶
then the culpability of this "genocide" lies with Hamas.

And that is a perfectly reasonable argument to make. There are lots of valid arguments for why Israel isn't committing genocide on the Palestinians. Irrelevant population graphs that don't cover the timespan in question are absolutely not one of them.