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Calavar ◴[] No.41861254[source]
We've lost a lot with the deletion of this repo. Not the code - that's already out in the ether - but the absurdist comedy of the issues, pull requests, and commit history of trying to piecemeal delete third party non-FOSS software.
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hypeatei ◴[] No.41861800[source]
Seriously, watching that unfold was hilarious. I also feel like some were being too harsh for no reason. The repo owner was responsive and merging PRs.
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1. rightbyte ◴[] No.41862111[source]
Might be another person than the one making the calls.

It is abit sad that they messed up the licensing. It would be fun nostalgia to run the 'real' Winamp on Linux. Native. Emulation does not count.

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2. fsflover ◴[] No.41862681[source]
Wine Is Not Emulator.
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3. anthk ◴[] No.41867987[source]
Wine is not emulating anything, but giving you a PE loader and a Win32 API on top of your Unix.
4. account42 ◴[] No.41868434[source]
And this image does not depict a pipe: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/MagrittePipe....

Giving WINE (originally WINdows Emulator) a cute backronym does not change the definition of the word emulator or whether Wine is one. Please check your favorite dictionaries for that.

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5. fsflover ◴[] No.41869938{3}[source]
It actually doesn't do emulation but API AFAIK.
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6. pjc50 ◴[] No.41870055{4}[source]
Correct - the instructions in the Windows PE executable run natively. WINE provides a PE loader for exe and dll files (https://github.com/wine-mirror/wine/blob/master/dlls/ntdll/l...) and provides its own version of the API (user32.dll, kernel32.dll etc)
7. bmacho ◴[] No.41871702{4}[source]
Doing windows API is emulating windows

> In computing, an emulator is hardware or software that enables one computer system (called the host) to behave like another computer system (called the guest).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulator

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8. fsflover ◴[] No.41874490{5}[source]
Interesting. However WINE is not in this list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer_system_emul...
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9. jeffalyanak ◴[] No.41875622{6}[source]
It's an OS or API emulator, not a computer system emulator. It's a different scope, but still fits the definition of an emulator.
10. bmacho ◴[] No.41880311{3}[source]
> Giving WINE (originally WINdows Emulator) a cute backronym

https://www.winehq.org/about states that it was an acronym for "Wine Is Not an Emulator", and it isn't now, the opposite of what you claim. (I don't really believe winehq, but I can't find the original discussion on newsgroup archives.)

11. greggyb ◴[] No.41900345{3}[source]
> And this image does not depict a pipe

In fact, it does. Literally, "This is not a pipe," because an image of a pipe is not a pipe.

From the artist:

> The famous pipe. How people reproached me for it! And yet, could you stuff my pipe? No, it's just a representation, is it not? So if I had written on my picture "This is a pipe", I'd have been lying!

Sourced from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images