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Reflections on Palantir

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1. tsimionescu ◴[] No.41861983[source]
What does this historical population trend have to do with the genocide being perpetrated by Israel in Gaza in retaliation for October 7th, 2023?
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2. FactKnower69 ◴[] No.41862048[source]
>Even the most pessimistic estimates of civilian casualties are on the order of tens of thousands.

blatant lie, as has been pointed out to you multiple times now

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3. Manuel_D ◴[] No.41862218{3}[source]
The figure comes from the Palestinian Health Ministry: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-death-toll-ho...

What incentive would the Palestinian government have to deceive people into thinking there's fewer casualties than the real figure?

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4. tsimionescu ◴[] No.41862937[source]
First of all, this is just the beginning of the war. Israel has been very explicit that they have no intention whatsoever to negotiate any kind of peace (at most a temporary reprieve in exchange for the hostages that they haven't already buried with their own bombs), so this will continue. And the 45k number is almost exclusively confirmed casualties. Before the Ministry of Health was completely decimated itself, around the time the number was 30k, these were all people whose names were known.

But there are many, many more people buried in the rubble or otherwise missing, who are almost certainly dead, but are not included in this. And then there are indirect deaths, from starvation, injuries, lack of medicine: those already amount to some 100k+, almost 10% of Gaza's population.

Not to mention, virtually the entirety of the population of Norther Gaza has been displaced by now, which is another form of genocide, especially if they will not be permitted to return. This is already being planned by some in Israel, with some coveting parts of Gaza as prime real estate.

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5. tsimionescu ◴[] No.41862953{4}[source]
From the very article you quote:

> IS THE GAZA DEATH TOLL COMPREHENSIVE?

> The numbers do not necessarily reflect all victims, as many are still under rubble, the Palestinian Health Ministry says. It estimates some 10,000 bodies were uncounted in this way.

> The Humanitarian Research Lab at the Yale School of Public Health has said that the true figures are likely higher than those published, without giving specifics.

> The U.N. human rights office also says the Palestinian authorities' figure is probably an undercount. In past Israel-Hamas conflicts, its own tally has sometimes exceeded theirs.

> It declined to share its toll for this war since it is incomplete but confirmed to Reuters that the deaths it has verified so far show that the majority are women and children.