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Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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471 points tosh | 7 comments | 16 Oct 24 13:48 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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jonpurdy ◴[16 Oct 24 14:11 UTC] No.41859223[source]▶
For those who wear N95s on planes, I can confirm that 3M Aura 9205+ works great with Vision Pro※ and doesn't hinder using it at all, nor reduce comfort, at least for my head and face shape.

※ - Tested during my 30 min demo (more like 45 mins) at the Apple Store.

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klabb3 ◴[16 Oct 24 14:57 UTC] No.41859830[source]▶
Not criticism, genuinely curious: why? I thought cabin air was exceptionally well cycled and filtered, much more so than other indoor spaces.
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1. jonpurdy ◴[16 Oct 24 15:57 UTC] No.41860630[source]▶
I used to think this especially since airlines touted how good the air filtration was when COVID hit.

It's actually quite poor and significantly worse than most indoor spaces I've entered (most spaces aren't great at around 800-1600ppm). On planes I've measured※ very high CO2 levels (1800-4000ppm), with the worst air during boarding and deplaning. This matches the findings of others (both amateur and professional researchers).

※ - using Aranet4

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2. Dylan16807 ◴[16 Oct 24 18:24 UTC] No.41862099[source]▶
Are CO2 levels a useful way to measure filtration?

Are we expecting almost all the clean air to be from outside, minimal amounts from recirculation?

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3. criddell ◴[16 Oct 24 18:56 UTC] No.41862515[source]▶
How does an N95 help with CO2 levels?
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4. macintux ◴[16 Oct 24 19:10 UTC] No.41862682[source]▶
I would wager it's not a matter of helping filter out CO2, but rather CO2 is one way to assess how effective the air management is on a plane.
5. jonpurdy ◴[16 Oct 24 20:14 UTC] No.41863361[source]▶
Apologies, I specified "filtration" but meant "quality", which I would define as filtration + fresh air intake.

I'd have expected a better mix (more fresh air) since even with filtration removing many particulates and viruses, high CO2 levels still cause worse cognitive performance.

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6. Dylan16807 ◴[16 Oct 24 20:28 UTC] No.41863517{3}[source]▶
It's hard to get lots of fresh air into a pressurized plane, so I'm willing to have a good bit of leeway on that front. And airflow patterns are important; a lot of fresh air running from front to back would likely do more harm than good.
7. foobarian ◴[17 Oct 24 16:14 UTC] No.41871021[source]▶
I love how the recent availability of cheap PPM and CO2 sensors spawned a whole new subculture of air quality paranoia.

Based on Veritasium's recent video, given the cabins are pressurized by bleeding air off of the jet engine might not be too surprising about CO2 or particulates. However the cabin air is also exceptionally dry.