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thisislife2 ◴[] No.41858057[source]
> In this scenario the macOS firewall does not seem to function correctly and is disregarding firewall rules ... Some examples of apps that do this are Apple’s own apps and services since macOS 14.6, up until a recent 15.1 beta.

This is not new - every time I update macOS, some of the system settings are changed to default including some in the firewall. And I have to painstakingly go through all of it and change it. Also, the few times I've reinstalled or updated macOS, I've always noticed that it takes longer for the installation if your system has access to the internet - so now I've made it a practice to switch of the router while installing or updating macOS or ios. (With all the AI bullshit being integrated everywhere in Windows, macOS and Android etc., I expect this kind of "offloading" of personal data, and downloading of data, to / from AI servers to keep increasing, especially during updates, to "prepare" for the new AI features in the newer OS updates. No internet means the installer is forced to skip it for later, saving you some valuable time, and hopefully you get to change the default setting before it starts up again. Whatever the claims of AI processing done on the Mac or iDevices itself, some "offloading" to their servers, will still happen, especially if the default settings - which you can change only after the OS is installed - also enables analytics and data collection.)

(More here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26418809 and on this thread - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26303946 ).

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hypeatei ◴[] No.41858347[source]
> I've made it a practice to switch of the router while installing or updating macOS or ios.

Why are you still using those OSes? That seems like a lot of work for something you paid for.

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vundercind ◴[] No.41859079[source]
Because all operating systems are terrible but the rest are so incredibly bad that Apple’s are still by far the best, once you add up time saved by features and capabilities and subtract time lost to pain-in-the-ass brokenness.

(Two decades on DOS/Windows home series and NT, at least for gaming and sometimes work, twelve years with Linux as my main desktop OS, started on Android for smartphones, before finally giving Apple a fair chance around 2011 or 2012… because I was issued a MacBook at work and was doing dual-platform mobile dev—FWIW I was rooting for BeOS back when it was still a thing, it was great)

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MichaelZuo ◴[] No.41859280[source]
The real question is why is every other company with a consumer OS even more incompetent and/or malicious?
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fsflover ◴[] No.41859448[source]
What's incompetent about Linux? Have you tried to buy preinstalled?
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justin66 ◴[] No.41859833[source]
Power management.
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vundercind ◴[] No.41860039[source]
Windows is still bad at this, too, incredibly. Was initially issued a Lenovo Win10 machine at my current job, decided to give it a shot because I hadn’t used Windows for work in a long time, might have gotten better.

It was using 40% of its battery while “sleeping” over night, and even at full charge wouldn’t get me through a light work day on battery—not even close. Straight back to the battery-anxiety I hadn’t felt since back when I used Windows and Linux on laptops years and years ago. Plus the touchpad is still ass (sorry, never got any good at aiming with the track point, even though I used an IBM Thinkpad for years and years)

Luckily this place will issue a MacBook if you ask nicely. My god, that was a rough few weeks.

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justin66 ◴[] No.41860165[source]
> Windows is still bad at this, too, incredibly.

I couldn't agree more. And yet, Linux manages to be worse, since the "at least I can just hibernate" backup plan doesn't even work properly.

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1. vundercind ◴[] No.41860278[source]
The only time I’ve ever seen Linux disk hibernation actually work about 100% of the time was on an IBM Thinkpad I used to have, and only if I did some arcane magic with a specially-sized-and-designated partition in just the right partition order, because that triggered something in the hardware that let it handle things directly.
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2. fsflover ◴[] No.41860491[source]
I saw people being happy with hibernation on Librem 14 (I use Qubes OS, which doesn't support it).