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Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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471 points tosh | 4 comments | 16 Oct 24 13:48 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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latexr ◴[16 Oct 24 14:11 UTC] No.41859221[source]▶
> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop.

The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less.

> But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Apple Vision Pro will be on the face of every frequent flyer.

If it even gets that far. I’d almost be willing to take that bet, but 5 generations for this device could mean more than a decade so I don’t think any of us can say for sure.

All that said, I haven’t read the full review yet and I doubt it’ll do anything to convince me, but still I appreciate you writing it up and putting it out there. From what I’ve read so far it looks well thought out and it clearly took some effort, so kudos.

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nordsieck ◴[16 Oct 24 14:23 UTC] No.41859363[source]▶
> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less.

That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible to escape that environment until the plane lands, which is typically hours of time. If it's OK to tune the world out anywhere, it's got to be in an airplane.

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dkdbejwi383 ◴[16 Oct 24 14:26 UTC] No.41859404[source]▶
> That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in.

Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" (as shorthand for a privileged minority of people globally, not literally exactly 1% of the population) problem.

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MPSimmons ◴[16 Oct 24 14:37 UTC] No.41859544[source]▶
I don't think it's a 1% problem, but it's a 40% problem:

https://www.airlines.org/new-survey-nearly-90-percent-of-ame...

44% of Americans flew commercially in 2022.

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talldayo ◴[16 Oct 24 14:46 UTC] No.41859674[source]▶
80% of those people are flying economy class and already get along fine with earbuds and their phone. The remaining 20% that can afford something like Vision Pro almost certainly will choose not to.
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macintux ◴[16 Oct 24 15:06 UTC] No.41859936[source]▶
People used to get along fine with a magazine or book; that doesn't mean they weren't ready for something better.
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1. talldayo ◴[16 Oct 24 15:15 UTC] No.41860076[source]▶
If those uncertain people decide they want to distract themselves with VR, do you think they'll buy the $350 headset or the $3,500 one?

I just don't see the market Apple envisions materializing. I'd expect 20 people to be using a Quest in economy before you see 2 people using a Vision Pro in business.

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2. PierceJoy ◴[16 Oct 24 16:23 UTC] No.41860960[source]▶
The author specifically says he believes people will be using the 4th or 5th iteration of the Vision Pro for this purpose. Why are you comparing prices of devices that won't exist for another 5+ years?
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3. talldayo ◴[16 Oct 24 18:58 UTC] No.41862545[source]▶
Because you and I both know Apple will never be price-competitive with the commodity segment. They are a luxury brand that relies on luxury margins, so I want to know why their business model will succeed.

If plane seating is anything to go by, most people don't want a luxury experience but a practical and cheap one instead. Most seats aren't reserved for premium passengers because they are a minority, maybe a profitable audience but not at all the primary one.

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4. PierceJoy ◴[17 Oct 24 22:40 UTC] No.41874543{3}[source]▶
> Because you and I both know Apple will never be price-competitive with the commodity segment.

OG iPhone: $799

iPhone 3G: $199

> They are a luxury brand that relies on luxury margins, so I want to know why their business model will succeed.

Apple has shown many times over they don't need to be price competitive with the commodity segment. If you want to know why their business model will succeed, why not just look at their current business model which has been massively successful? Arguably the most successful business model in the history of consumer hardware.