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seestem ◴[] No.41858155[source]
It would be better if the Internet Archive was decentralized without a central point of failure, maybe run on something like bittorent.
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Cheer2171 ◴[] No.41858279[source]
You say this as if it is an original idea. Of course the IA is working on this and have been for over 6 years. There already is a DWeb version. They have been advancing DWeb infrastructure. The IA hosts all kinds of DWeb developer events.

But it is over 50 petabytes and the IA gets a huge amount of traffic through the regular web that they need to serve quickly and efficiently to their users.

Guess what has happened over 6 years of decentralization of 50 TB? People only seed what they want or care about and there aren't enough seeders to host. They set all this up and nobody volunteers. You're a DWeb advocate and you haven't been seeding. That's a recipe for disaster if they rely on the goodness of volunteer seeders. The IA's mission is broader. DWeb will ever only compliment the IAs mission.

https://blog.archive.org/2021/02/18/behind-the-scenes-of-the...

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/archiveorg-...

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seestem ◴[] No.41858315[source]
It is not my original idea, but it is an obvious idea to anyone who knows how the internet works, I just added it to get the discussion going.
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Cheer2171 ◴[] No.41858355[source]
It already exists. IA has had a DWeb for 6 years. Nobody seeds it.
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seestem ◴[] No.41858418[source]
Incentivising seeding is hard. Maybe cryptocurrencies can be useful here, but I understand not everyone likes them especially here on HN. In retrospect the ideal setup would have been if archiving was included into the core HTTP protocol.
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1. Cthulhu_ ◴[] No.41858806[source]
Cryptocurrencies implies that people would pay / get paid for it... just pay the directly IA then, or your own servers. Cryptocurrencies imply someone's skimming off a lot for their own pockets.
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2. seestem ◴[] No.41858904[source]
I meant more like in bitcoin how the miners get paid for mining, or how validators are rewarded in proof of stake blockchains. This techniques can be used to incentivised seeders.