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jordigh ◴[] No.41855104[source]
Where does Foone keep finding this stuff?

Earlier, Foone finds a NUC:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41294585

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raffraffraff ◴[] No.41856364[source]
I know an employee in an IT company. He told me that they have hundreds of decommissioned laptops and no time to wipe them. And they won't pay someone else to do it because it's too expensive. So right now they are in storage. If they go bust, the storage company will likely dump them.

I've seen a lot of stuff in e-waste. There are several facilities within 5 miles of my home, and you can walk right in and drop off your old TVs, toasters and laptops in large metal bins. And if you have a quiet word with the attendant you can usually walk off with stuff that someone else dropped off. "Good for the environment mate! I can use this for parts!"

If social engineering works at banks, you can be damn sure it works at an e-waste facility. And if that fails, a few bank notes help.

I don't do this but I have intercepted e-waste coming from family and friends. In one case I found a treasure trove of photos from my deceased sister. Nobody had ever seen them before. I also found personal documents, internet history and saved passwords in the browser, which got me into her iCloud account which, until then, nobody could access. This lead to more photos and documents. And it was all destined for e-waste.

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michaelt ◴[] No.41856579[source]
> I've seen a lot of stuff in e-waste. [...] if you have a quiet word with the attendant you can usually walk off with stuff that someone else dropped off.

In my country, there are specialist e-waste disposal companies large IT organisations can hire, which guarantee to remove and shred the hard drives before recycling the rest.

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1. BlueTemplar ◴[] No.41857720{3}[source]
I don't think that the people responsible for dealing with the mess left from bankruptcy are large IT organizations, they probably barely have the money to transport the waste to the nearest trash dump, unsorted, and forget about "recycling" now that poor countries are less willing to take the e-waste.

Companies leaving their waste as someone else's problem to deal with is a common occurrence (heck, even before they go bankrupt), and in many cases they would never have existed in the first place if they had to pay for all of it, for instance :

https://www.desmog.com/2019/12/20/fracking-oil-gas-bankruptc...

(Note also that there are funds set aside for cleanup, but they are typically woefully insufficient.)

How to prevent companies that are a net negative for society from existing remains an unsolved problem.

(Aside of course from disallowing companies altogether, I wonder when is the point that the limited liability company as a concept is a net negative to society ? Could it be in the past already ? Of course comes the question of whether any alternative can have a positive contribution, in a context of overshoot...)