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pistoleer ◴[] No.41856374[source]
It surprises me to read about "fixed metal frame" awnings. You don't _have_ to make that trade off.

In the Netherlands a lot of houses have electrically retractable awnings (or even just mechanically windable by hand), especially above the giant windows facing the back yard.

During winter and bad weather, we retract the awning. When it's too sunny, we deploy it.

typical row house layout with big windows on both sides: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doorzonwoning

retractable awning: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zonnescherm

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dumbo-octopus ◴[] No.41856655[source]
We have them in america too. But every moving part comes with inflated costs for both acquisition and ongoing maintenance.
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pistoleer ◴[] No.41856685[source]
In the Netherlands it costs around a grand, as for maintenance... Haven't needed to do any in more than 15 years. The actual screen retracts into a weather proof metal casing, so there's not that much that goes wrong, whereas fixed awnings are exposed to the full weather gamut 24/7.

Let me put it this way: it's cheap enough that a lot of social housing and other cheap forms of housing inhabited by the "lower class" feature them.

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dumbo-octopus ◴[] No.41856747[source]
A government paying for a thing does not in any way imply that the thing is a good use of money. How many decades of fabric replacements could you get from the savings of bolting on a simple metal frame as compared to an elaborate electromechanically actuated arm mechanism?
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pxndxx ◴[] No.41856873[source]
What? Who mentioned the government paying for them? Who said that the fabric needs replacing often?
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dumbo-octopus ◴[] No.41856969[source]
The parent…? Who pays for public housing? And what relevance would the weather otherwise have..?
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1. kuschku ◴[] No.41857143[source]
You might be misunderstanding something.

Even a working family, if they're earning very little, may be living in subsidized public housing.

Renters have lots of rights over here, allowing them to customize a lot about the apartment. Awnings are usually owned and installed by the renters themselves.

So a family that has so little income that they need to live in subsidized public housing may still have enough income to buy a retractable awning.