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197 points pkilgore | 4 comments | 14 Oct 24 14:19 UTC | HN request time: 0.605s | source
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joshuajill ◴[15 Oct 24 13:05 UTC] No.41848154[source]▶
GNU kind communication guidelines the report purports to be transphobic:

"Please think about how to treat other participants with respect, especially when you disagree with them. For instance, call them by the names they use, and refer to them using words whose meanings (as you understand them) cover those participants' stated gender identities. Please also show tolerance and respect for people who do that using different words from the words you use."

Also strongly disagree with stopping support FSF, in particular from an anonymous group.

Recommendations are quite of, despite the generally accurate and reasonable report.

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jcranmer ◴[15 Oct 24 16:05 UTC] No.41849992[source]▶
> refer to them using words whose meanings (as you understand them) cover those participants' stated gender identities

If I were trans, that portion of the guideline would be enough to nope me out of participating in GNU projects. The "as you understand them" parenthetical gives cover for transphobes to intentionally misgender trans people, since they can hide behind saying that they feel it's only appropriate to use these terms for the appropriate biological sex.

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1. gr4vityWall ◴[16 Oct 24 02:17 UTC] No.41855001[source]▶
I'm trans and the GNU Communication Guidelines feel way more empathetic to me than CoC-like documents.

> gives cover for transphobes to intentionally misgender trans people

It also gives cover to people who prefer to always use gender neutral pronouns. If a transphobe is acting on their views on gender to bully people, I'd rather deal with them on a case-by-base basis, while being empathetic to everyone else who might have meant to harm.

BTW, I've met RMS in person a few years ago, and exchange emails with him every once in a while. I've found him to be very fun, and not hard to deal with if you're used to hanging out with neurodivergent people.

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2. Akronymus ◴[17 Oct 24 17:37 UTC] No.41871779[source]▶
I've also seen attempts at using someones mistake with misgendering someone on accident be used to start what amounts to a witchhunt in various private communities. So I really don't like it when a CoC assumed maliciousness by default, which a lot of them are.

I am no longer part of most of those communities, for both related and unrelated reasons.

3. contrapunctus ◴[19 Oct 24 15:33 UTC] No.41888387[source]▶
ITYM "meant _no_ harm"
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4. gr4vityWall ◴[19 Oct 24 16:17 UTC] No.41888697[source]▶
you're correct, my bad. :)