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419 points alex_medvedev | 10 comments | 15 Oct 24 09:18 UTC | HN request time: 1.206s | source | bottom
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dartos ◴[15 Oct 24 19:52 UTC] No.41852437[source]▶
Just waiting for Minecraft to be so reverse engineered as to be its own protocol with multiple server and client implementations that just work.
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1. str3wer ◴[15 Oct 24 20:29 UTC] No.41852773[source]▶
it already is, the entire protocol is reverse engineered, there are tools to automatically deobfuscate the code and there is already a full reimplementation of minecraft that also supports servers
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2. INTPenis ◴[15 Oct 24 21:06 UTC] No.41853124[source]▶
Does that mean there are open source clients that can connect to servers without a microsoft account?
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3. beeboobaa3 ◴[15 Oct 24 21:50 UTC] No.41853474[source]▶
the client has to authenticate with a central server and present a ticket to the server it wants to connect to. otherwise clients could impersonate each other easily.
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4. Cyberdog ◴[15 Oct 24 22:01 UTC] No.41853560[source]▶
If that's the case, how come nobody seems to be writing improved Minecraft clients?

Ever since I started playing it in the beta days I've been frustrated with how poorly Minecraft performs relative to what it's showing on the screen. (Not that that stopped me from pouring hundreds of hours into the damn thing.)

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5. imtringued ◴[15 Oct 24 22:31 UTC] No.41853806[source]▶
Yeah, it was always weird how 32x32x48 extreme reactors lagged the game whenever you looked at them, but the moment you looked away everything was fine.
6. justusthane ◴[16 Oct 24 00:43 UTC] No.41854574{3}[source]▶
There are server mods that remove this requirement though.
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7. xboxnolifes ◴[16 Oct 24 03:48 UTC] No.41855419[source]▶
If the server is configured to not require server auth.
8. xboxnolifes ◴[16 Oct 24 03:50 UTC] No.41855430[source]▶
There are tons. There are mods that rewrite graphics rendering, chunk loading, multi-threading, ...
9. vintermann ◴[16 Oct 24 05:33 UTC] No.41855922[source]▶
Well, they do? Sodium, for instance. It's a mod, not a full rewrite, rewriting the client from scratch would mean a lot of boring work like speaking with Mojang's server, but I understand Sodium basically rips out and replaces the entire graphics pipeline of the client.
10. beeboobaa3 ◴[16 Oct 24 12:44 UTC] No.41858423{4}[source]▶
sure, iirc it used to even just be a setting? online-mode=false

most servers leave it enabled because preventing player impersonation is pretty important so people can't just easily grief each other. some piracy servers implemented their own auth on top.