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Meta's open AI hardware vision

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212 points GavCo | 4 comments | 15 Oct 24 18:08 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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jameslk ◴[15 Oct 24 18:25 UTC] No.41851534[source]▶
That title is most definitely a swipe at OpenAI. It seems there’s a theme of two types of platform companies: the closed one that has the “premium” platform, and the open one that gets market share by commodifying the platform.

macOS vs Windows

iOS vs Android

OpenAI vs Meta AI?

Edit: Another observation is Meta seems to open things defensively. Facebook had a rich developer platform until Facebook stopped needing to grab market share. Meta’s VR platform was closed until Apple challenged them with Vision Pro. Then Meta announced open sourcing Horizon OS. I wonder if Meta will truly keep things open if they win, or if it’s more like a case of EEE?

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jsheard ◴[15 Oct 24 18:50 UTC] No.41851829[source]▶
Windows and Android took the commodity approach but they always had a business model, while Meta AI is currently running on Underpants Gnomes economics.

1. Spend billions on a product, then give it away for free.

2. ???

3. Profit!

> Then Meta announced open sourcing Horizon OS.

Open sourcing isn't really the right term, they're allowing third party hardware vendors to use it but it's still proprietary. Horizon OS is built on top of Android and they're following the Android playbook where the core is technically open source but the version nearly everyone actually uses has a bunch of proprietary Google (or Meta) software layered on top, and Google (or Meta) dictates the terms of using that software, which lets them ensure that revenue always flows back to Google (or Meta) regardless of who made the hardware.

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herval ◴[15 Oct 24 19:29 UTC] No.41852230[source]▶
They use the models they opensource in their own products, no? I don’t think Meta is looking to profit selling LLMs…
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TechDebtDevin ◴[15 Oct 24 19:32 UTC] No.41852252[source]▶
> "I don’t think Meta is looking to profit selling LLMs…"

Said no one ever.

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dartos ◴[15 Oct 24 19:42 UTC] No.41852344[source]▶
OP said it… I also don’t think meta is looking to sell LLMs.

Probably LLM backed products. Likely marketing tools if anything.

But not the same way OAI sells LLMs

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1. TechDebtDevin ◴[15 Oct 24 19:48 UTC] No.41852400[source]▶
Maybe not "sell" but if you look at my other comment on this post you'll see their valuation has increased 162 billion since they released their first open source model. They definitely are looking to profit, they just take a different approach to monetization. Same thing in my book.
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2. richardw ◴[15 Oct 24 20:08 UTC] No.41852589[source]▶
Excellent move to juice the stock price but it’s not profit. I think it’s more a hope for profit one day, a ticket to the game.
3. herval ◴[15 Oct 24 22:26 UTC] No.41853776[source]▶
So you’re saying Meta stock grew this year because they released an open source LLM?
4. dartos ◴[16 Oct 24 00:57 UTC] No.41854637[source]▶
> They definitely are looking to profit

Since when? Lol