Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

Looks really nice, wish could afford it, but Apple products are so expensive... Commodity products for premium price

I usually like to buy these 1-2 years old off Craigslist / Marketplace and that's been a sweet spot for price and quality.

Apple has always been about premium price and quality but I agree that it's not for everyone and their needs.

It's ok, lotsa people have the money for it.

Apple products are not commodity, because there is very little fungibility due to network effects.

Maybe their hardware is commodity (arguable), but the product + integrations are not.

Many of these devices aren’t actually fungible commodities though.I tried to buy a phone in the $200 range and Android phones were so much worse than used iPhones. I they would drop calls and freeze on the dial pad during long calls where I was on hold. Tried two different models and had the same issues. I could have tried a used $200 Android but I was not wanting to try for a third Android. All I wanted/needed was to make important calls.

So I guess I don’t see them as commodities which implies fungibility.

What’s with the sour grapes? I can’t afford a Pagani. Doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate the engineering.

I realize that there are bad Androids out there and the abundance of choice makes it difficult to sift through the good and the bad, but there are good Android phones out there in the $200-$300 USD range. My current phone is a bit over three years old and it is still very usable.

Its commodity you can buy from dozens of other vendors for much cheaper price.

They are hardly commodities. The build quality and lifetime of iPads is incredible compared to any other tablet I’ve ever used (typing this on a six year old iPad Pro that’s still going strong).

True, but they last long enough that you can get them second hand, whereas used products from other vendors tend to be junk not worth spending money on even at a cheaper price point.

Especially with companies like Motorola. The 2022 Edge cost $400 on release. A bit over a year later it was on sale for $140.

There is a definite lack of worthy competitors to the iPad Mini in the market. Most other tablets are 10" or larger. The only other contemporary tablets I've found in that size have had very low-end specs in comparison.

Uh, where can I buy a cheaper iPad?

Then buy it there instead of complaining?

Not sure why you're calling me "sour grapes"? I only lamented the fact that I could not afford the thing

True - long time ago I had the "new ipad", and it was really, really nice - lasted me for years, until I could no longer update it.

"Commodity products for premium price" definitely sounds like sour grapes.

If the products are actually commodity, just buy something else.

I recently traded in my 5-year-old iPad Pro because it was badly banged up, and they still offered me ~$400 in trade-in value. Great iPads.

The iPad lineup starts at $350, and that's brand new, look used or refurbished and it becomes even cheaper. If that's too much for you, you'll be pressed to afford any computer.

Also when buying second hand, you pay for that premium brand

And while we're at it, can someone finally tell me where people find cheap ferraris? I really want a car but they're just too expensive!

> All I wanted/needed was to make important calls.

Can I recommend you a 40€ phone? They've been making models that can do calls for a while now and they needn't cost as much as an Apple-branded device to do just that

> they would drop calls and freeze on the dial pad during long calls

Never heard that happen to anyone with any phone model. If you've ruled out some software-specific issue like a call recorder you've installed or so, that sounds borderline implausible. Then again, given the number of issues I experience with software (of any kind)...

I was curious what was meant by that too too, turns out it's a legitimate phrase in the dictionary:

sour grapes, plural noun, disparagement of something that has proven unattainable

> his criticisms are just sour grapes

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sour%20grapes

Smartphones failing to make phone calls is not exactly an unknown concept.

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/some-pixel-users-cant-dial-91...

https://www.slashgear.com/842545/why-antennagate-was-a-compl...

https://www.online-tech-tips.com/android-phone-wont-make-cal...