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    Mothbox 4.0

    (digital-naturalism-laboratories.github.io)
    207 points bookofjoe | 13 comments | 15 Oct 24 14:10 UTC | HN request time: 0.803s | source | bottom
    1. nerdponx ◴[15 Oct 24 14:54 UTC] No.41849257[source]▶
    Are there any "citizen science" initiatives where I can buy a device like this and upload my insect counts to some database that's useful for researchers?

    I have been interested in setting up some things like home weather monitoring, ADS-B, streaming webcams for wildlife, etc. anyway so this would be a fun item to add to that.

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    2. gibspaulding ◴[15 Oct 24 15:38 UTC] No.41849694[source]▶
    Cornell is doing something along those lines for birds using audio recordings. It’s just a smartphone app though - https://merlin.allaboutbirds.org/sound-id/
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    3. beardyw ◴[15 Oct 24 15:57 UTC] No.41849903[source]▶
    I was using it today, and any day when there are birds around. It correctly identifies birds you can barely hear. It's become as useful as binoculars to me. A great free app.
    4. aeturnum ◴[15 Oct 24 17:19 UTC] No.41850787[source]▶
    I think the air gradient folks do some collaboration and it's possible you could get your sensors linked into a bigger net by contacting them: https://www.airgradient.com/research/

    Edit: Also MIT did this recently: https://news.mit.edu/2023/low-cost-device-can-measure-air-po...

    5. Modified3019 ◴[15 Oct 24 18:07 UTC] No.41851298[source]▶
    On a related note, I wish there was some sort of software system where I could ID weeds and insects with photos and locations at various levels of confidence (“possibly”, “probably”, keyed out, genetic testing) at different taxonomic levels and both self host my results while also automatically contributing to a larger project.

    There are various projects out there (like plantnet) but I don’t want to burn massive personal effort curating in a system that isn’t my own first and foremost, due to inevitable enshittification. At the same time, I want others to benefit from what I do, in particular local growers and naturalists. Things like PlantNet also tend to be “majority vote” on ID, meaning a whole lot is often close, but wrong. For example there is a regional plant specific to my area called Willamette Navarretia. Those that don’t realize this will easily confuse it with very similar looking species found most elsewhere in the western US, and last I checked it wasn’t in PlantNet.

    https://www.oregon.gov/oda/programs/PlantConservation/SiteAs...

    https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/165663-Navarretia-willamett...

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    6. doodlebugging ◴[15 Oct 24 20:25 UTC] No.41852733[source]▶
    Have you tried iNaturalist? [0]

    Insects, animals, plants, etc get posted from all over the world for ID.

    [0] https://www.inaturalist.org/

    I post lots of photos of things I find locally and experts step in and help ID the subjects when I don't know what I'm seeing.

    I also have a couple of AudioMoths for recording local sounds including birds, insects, etc. Very high quality units at a reasonable price.

    I have seen this Mothbox posted a couple of times and almost bought one since I know I have tons of moths attracted to my native plants out here, but the price is a sticking point right now. I think something like this combined with an AudioMoth and some trail cams would be a good local wildlife monitor setup.

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    7. dekhn ◴[15 Oct 24 20:35 UTC] No.41852826[source]▶
    they also release the model. I've recorded hours of audio outside my house and run it through the model on my desktop with GPU.
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    8. Modified3019 ◴[15 Oct 24 20:44 UTC] No.41852899{3}[source]▶
    edit so it turns out, at least a significant part of inaturalist is in fact open source of some kind. I never realized, I’ll have to look into this more. I appreciate you getting me to take a second look https://github.com/inaturalist

    This may be exactly what I need: https://www.inaturalist.org/sites/network

    9. buescher ◴[15 Oct 24 21:51 UTC] No.41853491[source]▶
    I have a pi running birdnet-pi on my porch. https://www.birdweather.com/birdnetpi
    10. abroadwin ◴[15 Oct 24 21:54 UTC] No.41853511{3}[source]▶
    Are they using birdnet or something else?
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    11. dekhn ◴[15 Oct 24 23:08 UTC] No.41854038{4}[source]▶
    sorry, yes, I'm referring to birdnet.
    12. xipho ◴[16 Oct 24 05:03 UTC] No.41855782[source]▶
    If you want to manage your own data take a look at TaxonWorks. Multi-entry and bifurcating key editors, images, much more. It, and its companions are all open source, see TaxonPages for example.
    13. throwup238 ◴[16 Oct 24 05:52 UTC] No.41855998[source]▶
    > due to inevitable enshittification

    PlantNet is led by an alphabet soup consortium of French research institutes like IRD, CIRAD, INRIA, and INRA so I don’t think enshitification is inevitable - though I don’t know why it’s not open source. It’s funded by grants and donations with no incentive to enshitify it for more revenue.