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consumer451 ◴[] No.41843901[source]
What does everyone think about 1X's NEO? [0] They began from the idea of compliant robotics,[1] which seems to me to be a requirement for safe operation in proximity to humans.

Did Tesla make attendees sign a hefty liability waiver, since Optimus is not a compliant robot, or did they address the inherent problems some other way?

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUrLuUxv9gE (also remote controlled for now, while being trained)

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb6LMPXRdVc

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_robotics

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modeless ◴[] No.41844035[source]
Each robot had several human escorts, and the robots were limited to slow walking and a few slow hand gestures. The only danger would be if one fell over.

1x NEO looks awesome and far more advanced than this version of Optimus. I'm bullish on 1x. Tesla has a manufacturing advantage though. There were 50 units of Optimus at the event and I expect that there are only a few fully working units of NEO made so far. Also, Optimus has been improving quickly. It's possible Tesla could catch up in a few generations.

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consumer451 ◴[] No.41844160[source]
Right now, 1X and Tesla use entirely different mechanical architectures, don't they? Do you think that Tesla will end up with compliant robots?
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modeless ◴[] No.41844173[source]
Tesla is getting closer with tendon-based hands in the next generation of Optimus. Who knows where they will end up.
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1. beeflet ◴[] No.41844353[source]
Elastic tendons seem like a pretty reasonable solution to this problem, but can it be applied to all the joints (like ball-socket, etc.) I wonder?

I think the chassis of the robot should also have compliance, humans certainly do have squishy spines. I mean imagine you're on the street and you have to share sidewalk space with these things. Running into it would hurt.

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2. modeless ◴[] No.41844456[source]
The tendons are as inelastic as possible. The compliance comes from direct drive motors with no gearing (or as minimal as possible).