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Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event

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slg ◴[15 Oct 24 01:36 UTC] No.41844068[source]▶
How is stuff like this not considered fraud? This seems much worse to me than Musk's usual Tesla lies in which he is predicting some future capability. At least there is an argument that Musk believed it those at the time he said them or that they were optimistically possible despite being impractical. This seems to be material misrepresentation of the viability of one of the company's core R&D projects that Musk claims "will be the biggest product ever".
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jsight ◴[15 Oct 24 01:39 UTC] No.41844085[source]▶
Quite a few people at the event asked employees about this and were directly given the answer. It wasn't a secret.
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slg ◴[15 Oct 24 01:42 UTC] No.41844105[source]▶
Were you at the event or do you have a source for that claim? I have seen video of one of the bots refusing to give an answer to that question and there were multiple articles in the wake of the event that couldn't come to any definitive conclusion so I'm skeptical of this claim of immediate transparency.
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silisili ◴[15 Oct 24 02:07 UTC] No.41844238{3}[source]▶
Is this the video you saw (posting below, for you and anyone who hasn't seen it).

While ignoring the question the first time, he did confirm that they were being assisted by a human. Perhaps not as clear as 'remotely operated', but that's about how I took the answer. YMMV.

https://x.com/zhen9436/status/1844773471240294651

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1. slg ◴[15 Oct 24 02:27 UTC] No.41844343{4}[source]▶
No, the one I saw ducked the question multiple times so that video is more informative even if "assisted by a human" is still somewhat vague. I guess they just left what to disclose up to the individual operator making the level of deception dependent on who you happened to ask. Such a bizarre way to handle an event like this, but I guess that type of haphazard approach should be unsurprising for a Musk run company at this point.