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rdtsc ◴[] No.41842547[source]
> "Financial aspects of dental radiography also deserve further study," Feit added

No joke. That is a major money maker. There is minimal cost per-use and your insurance pays $200 for it (my last one was $186.00 for instance). The dentists would be crazy not to recommend them as of often as possible.

Fluoride "rinses" are likely up there too. Rinse for a few seconds and they charge the insurance $50 or something for it.

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1. tdeck ◴[] No.41842963[source]
At least fouride rinses provide some benefit. Although you can get much more benefit from buying a bottle of Act and rinsing with it every day.
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2. addicted ◴[] No.41843249[source]
Fluoride may potentially have some negative effects but we’ve been drinking Florida red water across the world for several decades and different countries have added fluoridation at different times etc, and it’s hard to see any severe effect that would qualify it as anything close to “madness”.
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3. orev ◴[] No.41843435[source]
If it was “highly toxic” it would be obvious because people would be getting sick or dying after ingesting it. Maybe it’s got some issues that aren’t obvious, but there’s not a clear answer.

However you don’t swallow mouth rinses like Act, so any nonobvious issue is also greatly reduced.

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4. Vortigaunt ◴[] No.41843528[source]
Like with everything else, the dosage makes the poison.

I personally intend to stay vigilante to dihydrogen monoxide poisoning.

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5. s0sa ◴[] No.41843554[source]
Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.
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6. hi-v-rocknroll ◴[] No.41843654{3}[source]
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
7. LorenPechtel ◴[] No.41843727[source]
Remember the old adage--it's the dose that makes the poison. There is *nothing* that is not lethal if consumed in sufficient quantity. That includes *everything* that we require to live, although in some cases it becomes effectively impossible to ingest a lethal amount.

Thus showing that something is toxic doesn't mean it's something you should never consume. And note that fluoridation started because it was observed that the people in areas with higher natural levels benefited.

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8. seanw444 ◴[] No.41843769{3}[source]
https://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
9. codr7 ◴[] No.41843803{3}[source]
Fluoridation started because they wanted to get rid of toxic byproducts from making aluminum, the rest is marketing.
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10. codr7 ◴[] No.41843805{3}[source]
Really, you don't see it?
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11. codr7 ◴[] No.41843815{3}[source]
Or, it could be a contributing factor to any of the umpteen lifestyle diseases we're dealing with atm.

Not swallowing is great, but I'm sure the concentration is high enough for it to be absorbed anyway.

12. codr7 ◴[] No.41843820{3}[source]
Yeah, but the doses are way different for different substances, as are the side effects.

Edit: Haha, speaking about whooshing, use your brain or someone else will.

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13. codr7 ◴[] No.41843836{3}[source]
More like profiting from making people sick, aka. modern medicine.
14. replwoacause ◴[] No.41843986{4}[source]
Elaborate please?
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15. absoflutely ◴[] No.41843995{4}[source]
Whooshed right over your head.
16. codr7 ◴[] No.41844011{5}[source]
The madness.
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17. malfist ◴[] No.41844291{3}[source]
Fluoridated water is a communist plot?
18. tsimionescu ◴[] No.41845415{3}[source]
This is the joke from Dr Strangelove, right?
19. dag11 ◴[] No.41845453{3}[source]
https://youtu.be/J67wKhddWu4?t=116
20. thaumasiotes ◴[] No.41846126{3}[source]
> There is *nothing* that is not lethal if consumed in sufficient quantity.

To be fair, the quantity of fluorine that would kill you if you consumed it is too small to notice. What's saving you from the fluoride isn't that there isn't enough fluorine to be dangerous - it's that the fluorine is accompanied by things that make it less dangerous.

Table salt is 60% highly toxic chlorine, but you're free to coat your food in it because it's 40% sodium, too. In combination, they're fine and in fact necessary to life. Consumed separately in equal amounts, either would kill you. The quantity isn't what matters.

21. red-iron-pine ◴[] No.41848456{6}[source]
this is a bad Florida-Man joke
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22. rdtsc ◴[] No.41849437[source]
Fair point. And with fluoridated water and toothpaste, is the dentist checking the dosages? It's probably fine anyway, but paying an tens of dollars for it seems excessive. And like you said, get a bottle for rinsing at home, it's a lot cheaper than $40 per rinse.
23. LorenPechtel ◴[] No.41853863{4}[source]
What's added to tap water isn't the compound used in aluminum refining. Thus they would have to separate it out and at that point they can simply react it with aluminum and continue to use it. There's nothing to discard.
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24. codr7 ◴[] No.41907152{7}[source]
Far from a joke, it's very likely that some of the dysfunction we see is triggered by all the crap we put in our bodies to generate more profits.
25. codr7 ◴[] No.41907186{5}[source]
It was a byproduct as far as I remember, finding good information is getting more difficult every year.

Why is it so difficult to believe? Haven't we seen enough examples of people in power not giving a shit?