Furilabs Linux Phone

> Phone: 171mm x 82mm x 12mm : 280g

280 grams is a lot even for today's phones. 12 mm is half a inch. Very thick.

The other dimensions are 6.7 x 3.2 inches.

Ok, this might be a phone for people that want to prove a point but it's too cumbersome. How about starting with something reasonable and fit it with only what fits within those bounds? An example: 160 x 80 x 9 and 200 g. That would be a big phone but not bigger than many phones on sale.

It takes lots of engineering effort to make things svelte. That makes it incredibly hard for "indie" phone makers to come up with something competitive in this regard. Likewise with price --- Android phones with similar specs can be found for only $200.

I agree that it's definitely too tall but I don't agree that it's too thick. It has a removable battery which fully justifies the thickness imo.

I don't think 12mm is bad. My iPhone in its Otterbox sleeve is just over 11mm thick.

Why bother when you could pay HMD (aka "Nokia"), Foxconn, ASUS, etc to make a dramatically better phone with your logo and your OS on it?

Can you actually do this with the numbers Furilabs probably expects to hit? Surely there's a minimum number to order before the companies you mentioned will even take you serious.

Is there prior art that includes a removable battery, headphone jack and IP68 at those "reasonable" bounds? I wonder how large the battery could be in that case.

The Linux phones all fail anyway so if you don't have the volume just don't bother.

> Ok, this might be a phone for people that want to prove a point but it's too cumbersome. How about starting with something reasonable and fit it with only what fits within those bounds? An example: 160 x 80 x 9 and 200 g. That would be a big phone but not bigger than many phones on sale.

Because in that universe your comment would be about how awful the specs were and how tiny the battery is. I'm reasonably confident that price-size-performance is a "pick at most 2" situation.

Do you seriously think weight and thickness are parameters that hardware designers just artificially inflate all the time just to be mean to users???

You want 1/3 of thickness and 53ml in volume and 80g in weight just removed because methinks that'd be much better??? A phone isn't a steak cut, you... can't do that. You can if you knew beforehand that there are suitable replacements for major components like displays and batteries, if you don't, you just take what hardware engineers give you. What are you even thinking.

I rather have nice specs and battery life than thin.

I'd gladly take a phone that's twice as thick if it shaves a quarter off the width and a third off the height.

Are you suffering from burnout?

There's an undercurrent of despair in your comment. Don't do it to yourself, you only get one brain. Help us available. DM me if you want.