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"Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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552 points freedomben | 2 comments | 11 Oct 24 14:20 UTC | HN request time: 2.071s | source
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bijection ◴[11 Oct 24 19:04 UTC] No.41812422[source]▶
I've finally switched (back) to firefox today.

I switched from firefox to chrome for their superior devtools a few years back, but hopefully firefox has had time to catch up.

Everything old is new again!

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echelon ◴[11 Oct 24 19:28 UTC] No.41812698[source]▶
This is why we need to break up Google.

Google is a de facto monopoly. They own the entire web. The gateway, the browser, the protocols, advertising, discovery.

Google is too big.

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ragnese ◴[11 Oct 24 19:53 UTC] No.41813003[source]▶
Sure, but we saw this coming a mile away (as in, people have been saying this about Chrome for about a decade). People--especially tech nerds--didn't have to switch to the closed source, conflict-of-interest, browser. But, everyone did, and this is what we get for it. We now have proprietary DRM built in to the web standards, and all kinds of other bullshit, because a bunch of people decided to not learn any lessons at all from Microsoft and Internet Explorer.

But, every time Mozilla does something slightly abrasive, HN users pile on about how Mozilla is ruining their privacy-respecting reputation, and then go back to using Chrome... The double-standard is really something else.

Maybe instead of getting someone else to break up Google for us, we could just... stop using their shit? I'm typing this from Firefox, I use Proton Mail (and pay for it!) for email, and I mostly search with DuckDuckGo (I know that's not perfect, either). I certainly don't feel like I'm living like a caveman...

/rant

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endgame ◴[12 Oct 24 04:16 UTC] No.41816362[source]▶
I criticise Mozilla in tech circles, I recommend Firefox and a working adblocker to friends and family, and I donate to Ladybird. What else should I be doing?
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1. ragnese ◴[14 Oct 24 13:00 UTC] No.41837105[source]▶
That's it, I think. I think as long as enough of us actually do that, it'll make a difference. People seem to think that you need 50%+ of the users to "rebel" for there to be change, but the truth is that not all "users" are created equal. Developers, tech supporters (personal or professional), and "power users" matter more than typical users because it's our feedback, contributions, and demands that keep pushing these products forward. The "normies" will use whatever you put in front of them and they won't know or care that something could or should be different. If the nerds leave, the product will stagnate and other options will pick up steam.
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2. endgame ◴[17 Oct 24 11:36 UTC] No.41868633[source]▶
Or, as Ballmer used to say, "developers, developers, developers, developers."