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162 points lr0 | 4 comments | 14 Oct 24 03:00 UTC | HN request time: 0.795s | source
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pinkmuffinere ◴[14 Oct 24 05:22 UTC] No.41834435[source]▶
I’ve considered using kagi before, but I think this blog post finally convinced me not too: https://d-shoot.net/kagi.html

The quick summary is that they aren’t really privacy focused at all, don’t comply with GDPR, and generally seem ok misleading their customers. The lack-of-privacy doesn’t bother me itself, but misleading customers really troubles me. Why would I trust them with X when I know they’ve lied with Y?

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JumpCrisscross ◴[14 Oct 24 05:48 UTC] No.41834569[source]▶
Skimmed. Not seeing how Kagi are lying about anything. To the degree I can fault Vlad, it's in going down irrelevant rabbit holes with these folks.
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pinkmuffinere ◴[14 Oct 24 07:01 UTC] No.41834948[source]▶
Here’s an easy one: Vlad claims they are GDPR compliant. However, they do not provide a way to download stored personal info, as required by GDPR. This is a contradiction
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freediver ◴[14 Oct 24 10:50 UTC] No.41836282[source]▶
We do, just email support@kagi.com. Please do not spread disinformation.
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pinkmuffinere ◴[14 Oct 24 11:51 UTC] No.41836646[source]▶
I’m glad to hear you have updated your policy.
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1. freediver ◴[14 Oct 24 11:53 UTC] No.41836664[source]▶
That was always our policy.
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2. pinkmuffinere ◴[14 Oct 24 11:59 UTC] No.41836695[source]▶
The linked article has screenshots showing that it was not
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3. freediver ◴[14 Oct 24 12:30 UTC] No.41836899[source]▶
I would beg to disagree. The screenshots show that I think there is very little information to be downloaded to begin with because Kagi does not collect it, which is true. That does not mean that our policy is to ignore GDPR requests, that is a ridiculous inference to make.

The article you point to is a perception of one person, unfortunately sharing screenshots out of context to create a negative narrative and exploiting a fact that we run a 100% transparent business where you can ask the CEO literally anything directly.

Our policies have always and will belong in kagi.com/privacy and not on random websites. And it is hard enough to do what Kagi does even without misinformation shared in bad faith, so I'd ask you to please not do that going forward.

Here is why Kagi exists:

https://dkb.blog/p/kagi-interview

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4. pinkmuffinere ◴[14 Oct 24 21:55 UTC] No.41842427{3}[source]▶
It is against the spirit of this forum to assume bad faith.

I notice that your GDPR policy is not discussed on the policy page you provided. Here’s an archive taken just now: https://archive.ph/9bnhY