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TechDebtDevin ◴[] No.41836168[source]
I'm so excited to play with this. I just ordered one. I've gone through two Oura rings (I do not reccomend). I'm not sure this will be reliable but it cost me $14.00 not $300 and doesn't charge me monthly to access a mediocre api.
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1. pydry ◴[] No.41836329[source]
Oura rings do seem to have accurate tracking (unlike most smart watches). The data it collects and the subscription model look awful though.

Im eagerly awaiting a ring sleep tracker like it which can be used offline with gadgetbridge or something.

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2. danielbln ◴[] No.41836755[source]
Support for this ring (Colmi R02) was added to Gadgetbridge, so I suppose your wait is over: https://codeberg.org/Freeyourgadget/Gadgetbridge/pulls/3896
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3. pydry ◴[] No.41837724[source]
The sleep tracker seems to be quite poor - e.g. misrecognizing time spent in bed as time asleep. This was the same problem I had before with a xiaomi. It was so inaccurate on all fronts I just ditched the thing.

I wasnt expecting the colmi to be accurate for this low price, but still.

For gadgetbridge I dont think there are any good sleep trackers and the only two I know of that are genuinely accurate are the apple watch and oura (theres a guy who tests them all on youtube - this is what he found).

Id happily pay extra for a decent non-apple local storage only fitness tracker which integrates with OSS and doesnt upload every heartbeat to the cloud but it does not seem to exist.

4. tahnok ◴[] No.41838114[source]
Nice, I hadn't seen the gadgetbridge support PR before, will be good for a lot of people I think
5. runjake ◴[] No.41838574[source]
> Oura rings do seem to have accurate tracking (unlike most smart watches).

Accurate tracking of what? And which smart watches?

The Apple Watch seems to generally have the most accurate tracking according to most studies, which surprises me.

When I was looking at buying an Oura and browsing user subreddits, it was full of complaints about inaccurate readings and the slow intervals between readings.

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6. TechDebtDevin ◴[] No.41839512[source]
Rings are not a mature form factor for these sensors/platforms.The $50.00 huawei band 8 is much more accurate than the $3-400 Oura ring. Check out the Quantified Scientist on YouTube[0].

[0]: https://m.youtube.com/@TheQuantifiedScientist

While I still love the ring form factor. As tacky as it sounds, I still wear my bricked Oura rings sometimes just because I like the feel lol. However, I would never trust Oura ((or any other device outside of Apple(unfortunately)) to gauge you health off their data. While Oura is directionally correct (like most of them), it never once detected low oxygen levels in my sleep and I have some of the worst central sleep apnea my doctor has seen.

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7. bg0 ◴[] No.41840330[source]
The comments referencing quantified scientists do so in a somewhat negative light. But it should be noted that in his research, he points out that the oura is one of the top trackers for sleep[0]. This is not the only video that he praises the oura for being pretty damn good based on other devices.

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niLuR68YleI 2min41sec

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8. TechDebtDevin ◴[] No.41840793{3}[source]
For sleep phases and mediocre oxygen levels and bad HRV readings. And on his blog he says he does use it for his sleep tracking, so yeah. I'm not saying it's terrible but for sp02 I can confidently say it's terrible. I use actual nighttime pulse oximeters from Wellue which is also a (larger) ring form factor[0]. and I can see the large dips in O2 for example, the Oura will not detect this despite going into the low 80%s (very low) when my mask falls off.

What bothers me about these sleep tracking devices is they are often "on the low" reccomended as ways to detect sleep problems like sleep apnea. This might not be done by the companies themselves but it is certainly done by influencers who are hired to promote these products. If someone were to buy an Oura ring because they snore (one of their marketing tactics) to try and see if they have sleep apnea there is a high chance that the app would tell them their oxygen levels are fine and then they'd never go get a sleep study (which cost less than an Oura ring with home kits now). Assuming this caused them to never follow up on that snoring again, Oura's (and other companies) marketing and mediocre tech would quite literally shaved years off this persons life.

When I asked my doc if sleep apnea could kill me if left untreated, he responded, "It WILL kill you if we leave it untreated."

[0]:https://getwellue.com/pages/o2ring-oxygen-monitor

Edit: I do believe in 5 years Oura and other similar products will have figures this out. Just not yet.

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9. TechDebtDevin ◴[] No.41840958[source]
Oura is terrible. Without their paid influencers they'd be in the graveyard with Pebble and other past wearable companies.

Your Oura ring will likely get bricked by their updates (they'll replace it, but come on). Or you could simply have a busy week, forget to charge it and ban. Bricked.

They of course were first to market with this form factor, so they of course are going to be the ones to take most of the flack for all the growing pains that come with that. This is typical with any new platform. However, they still leave a ton to be desired and I can't really see how they'll survive the next few years with all the competition in the space.

10. noname120 ◴[] No.41842446{4}[source]
The Wellue is a great find, thanks a lot.