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gempir ◴[] No.41834758[source]
My thoughts just from reading the landing page, not having tested it.

I think trying to replace all these Apps

> serves as an all-in-one replacement of Linear, Jira, Slack, and Notion.

is not a wise move. I can see Linear and Jira and maybe Notion, but fighting with Slack just is an uphill battle. There are so many Chat platforms out there and many open source too.

Why would yours be the one to be at least on par with the likes of Slack? Which hasn't really happend for the others either.

JetBrains tried this with JetBrains Space [1] it used to be a knowledge platform and chat platform all with a code hosting platform, CI platform and a little more. But even an experienced dev company like JetBrains gave that up and focused on the core.

I think they should remove the chat part and stick to being a Jira + Notion replacement.

[1] https://www.jetbrains.com/space/

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1. crabbone ◴[] No.41836010[source]
Before JIRA became ubiquitous, before Slack even existed, I used to set up company's tools with MediaWiki, Jenkins, IRC, Redmine and GitWeb. The reason I'd choose these is because I knew more or less how to install them. It wasn't based on any sort of comparison of features etc.

Looking back at those days, I'd still take IRC over Slack any time. Just for the self-hosting part, but also because of better integration, simpler interface, simpler way of extending it to fit company's needs.

I'd also take GitWeb over Gitlab, Bitbucket or Gitea. None of the extras offered by these tools add any real value. The only reason I want any Web interface to Git at all is to be able to link to the code from Wiki / chat.

But, Jenkins turned out to be a really bad pick. And so is Redmine. I've tried many popular CI tools, and they are all bad, so, who knows maybe this project will do it better?.. but they don't seem to tell much about how they see things working. I also haven't found a good bug-tracking tool yet. So, maybe this project will make something better? -- Let's hope.

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Ideally, I'd prefer it if tools around project management standardized around some basic interfaces, so that no single company was tempted to create "package deals" where you choose to use crappy tools because they are packaged together with what you really want. But, I don't think it's clear to anyone what such interfaces might look like. So, this isn't happening probably in this decade... at least.