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vivzkestrel ◴[] No.41834021[source]
Are we trying to reinvent web development? Last few years have been wild. We abandoned HTML CSS and JS websites that used to work just fine and ran after frontend component frameworks and now the circle is getting completed by building tools and extensions we had 20 yrs ago
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stevage ◴[] No.41834938[source]
>We abandoned HTML CSS and JS websites that used to work just fine

Hmm. Have you actually done much web development in the last 10 years?

Building websites with raw HTML, CSS and JS 10 years ago was very much not "just fine". There's a reason frameworks were invented.

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oneeyedpigeon ◴[] No.41834974[source]
What do you consider "not fine" about websites written in "just" html, CSS, and js?
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0xFACEFEED ◴[] No.41835042[source]
1) Rats nest of non-declarative JavaScript.

2) Rats nest of JavaScript callbacks.

3) Overlapping stylesheets with !important everywhere.

4) Elements used for style not their semantic purpose (<b>, <strong>)

5) Subtle and not-so-subtle browser compatibility issues.

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1. netdevnet ◴[] No.41835515[source]
I agree with HTML+CSS+JS websites being not fine. But to be honest, js callbacks are more of a language thing than a framework thing. You don't need to use frameworks to write promises.