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elawler24 ◴[] No.41832117[source]
My dad bought a failing HVAC business 30+ years ago, then made it profitable over the years and sold it back to his employees last year. He had the option to take a few highly lucrative PE deals, but it was clear they would squeeze the life out of the employees and customers he had worked hard to support over many years. I can’t imagine how low quality this kind of trade work will become if PE owns them all. It will be similar to vet, dentist, and dermatology clinics which now feel like factories that don’t care about the humans on the other end - often employing fear tactics and sales quotas to incentivize upsells.
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heymijo ◴[] No.41832822[source]
> often employing fear tactics and sales quotas to incentivize upsells

This already happens. The most common AC repair needed is a new capacitor. It's a $20 part.

Call your dad's business, you probably get a quote for $100-ish and it's fixed in ten minutes.

Call a PE owned shop and they are likely to tell you that your entire system needs replaced. Quote $5-$8k.

Reports like this are already common place, and the roll-ups of former small-businesses in industry like HVAC that the PE people celebrate will only make this worse for customers.

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bluedevil2k ◴[] No.41833242[source]
Try $250 for a capacitor here in Texas - they know you can’t afford to take a few days to shop around due to the heat. What I’ve found works over the years: get the phone number of a few HVAC guys as you encounter them and offer them $50 to come when you need them. They’ll never pull the “you should cal l my employer” because most are contractors who need to buy their own equipment.
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1. gh02t ◴[] No.41833784[source]
I had a bad capacitor this past summer and ended up having to drive over an hour because the only place in town that would sell me a capacitor was Grainger on the opposite end of [moderately large town]. Everywhere else I called declined to sell me one for "safety reasons". Several did offer to send a tech out to do it for me...
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2. fshbbdssbbgdd ◴[] No.41835194[source]
When my AC broke on the weekend, I got a capacitor from Amazon that arrived next day.
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3. mmmlinux ◴[] No.41838467[source]
If they have techs they don't want to sell you parts, they want to sell you service. Granger sells parts. Would you call up restaurants trying to buy a raw potato?
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4. sidewndr46 ◴[] No.41840220[source]
This is why you call a supply house and not an HVAC company. As long as you aren't trying to buy refrigerant they really don't care.
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6. gh02t ◴[] No.41851349[source]
I actually mostly called up HVAC supply places but they wouldn't sell me a cap and offered to refer me to one of their "preferred" service providers. Maybe it's some backdoor colluding in my area, who knows, but yeah I was really surprised they wouldn't. I think I called 3-4 before someone told me Grainger sells 'em.
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7. gh02t ◴[] No.41851381[source]
Unfortunately Amazon in my area at the time had been taking a week or more for any deliveries. It was really annoying.
8. bigfatkitten ◴[] No.41885726{3}[source]
It's pretty common for outfits like that to be "trade only" and not do retail sales at all. Electrical wholesalers are often the same.