Most active commenters

    ←back to thread

    Introducing Our New Name

    (blog.minetest.net)
    212 points luafox | 18 comments | | HN request time: 0.861s | source | bottom
    Show context
    beeflet ◴[] No.41832369[source]
    The new name isn't great (too many vowels in the same place, you couldn't spell it if you heard it) but at least it's original and doesn't sound like it's a knockoff test implementation of minecraft anymore.

    Minetest is kind of a unique experiment in how modular a voxel game can be with mods. It's pretty cool. You just visit another server and it downloads and sets up all of the server's mods. You have dependencies and stuff so not every mod has to reinvent the wheel. Much better experience than minecraft modding.

    Minetest should lean into this and make the core gamemode more different than minecraft. Change up the artstyle, and make the physics feel better.

    replies(5): >>41832416 #>>41832599 #>>41836186 #>>41836482 #>>41840697 #
    1. cortesoft ◴[] No.41832416[source]
    > You just visit another server and it downloads and sets up all of the server's mods.

    That's how mods work in Minecraft bedrock

    replies(3): >>41832506 #>>41832509 #>>41833108 #
    2. beeflet ◴[] No.41832506[source]
    Minecraft Bedrock Edition is Microsoft's freemium children's game where you buy "mods" and "skins" using minecoins and you can visit a number of pre-approved pay-to-win servers or pay Microsoft to host a "server" for you and like 8 other people as long as you obey the microsoft guidelines and drink enough verification cans.

    You might be confusing it with a beloved viral indie PC game called Minecraft (2011) which is no longer for sale.

    replies(9): >>41832530 #>>41832545 #>>41832677 #>>41832691 #>>41832797 #>>41832848 #>>41833019 #>>41833136 #>>41833919 #
    3. Aeolun ◴[] No.41832509[source]
    You mean you are presented with fifteen purchase dialogs the moment you enter a server?
    4. WheatMillington ◴[] No.41832530[source]
    Minecraft Bedrock isn't free is it? Not when I looked at getting it for my kids it wasn't.
    5. r1chard007 ◴[] No.41832545[source]
    Neither of them is free and they're both still for sale https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/store/minecraft-deluxe-colle...
    6. Twirrim ◴[] No.41832677[source]
    > or pay Microsoft to host a "server" for you and like 8 other people as long as you obey the microsoft guidelines and drink enough verification cans.

    Or you can just run your own dedicated bedrock edition server, no need to pay anyone.

    https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server/bedrock

    replies(2): >>41832741 #>>41835868 #
    7. nullstyle ◴[] No.41832691[source]
    We all know Minecraft Bedrock edition, the children's game where I can actually play with my nieces and nephews confined to iPads and xboxes.

    It is also beloved by many, but i'm sure those folks count as subhuman to you.

    8. rkharsan64 ◴[] No.41832741{3}[source]
    There's a big catch here: creating mods for Bedrock is difficult. And, Mojang is taking steps that make it difficult for modders to create stuff for Bedrock. [1]

    There's no match for the modding capabilities that Java edition gives you.

    [1]: https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/2309...

    replies(1): >>41833443 #
    9. jerbearito ◴[] No.41832797[source]
    Correction: Bedrock is not freemium. There's also nothing wrong with Bedrock. It allows for cross-platform play. The minecoins/purchases are available in the menus, but they're never pushed in-game. The experience is very similar to Java.

    Also, Java and Bedrock both have Realms (the managed "server" option you referred to).

    10. zamalek ◴[] No.41832848[source]
    > You might be confusing it

    I doubt it. Datapacks did originate in Bedrock, though Minecraft Java does have them now.

    Downloading Forge/Fabric mods automatically has never been supported as far as I know - good thing tool, it would be a security nightmare.

    11. cortesoft ◴[] No.41833019[source]
    You get the Java and bedrock version when you buy Minecraft for the PC.
    12. madeofpalk ◴[] No.41833108[source]
    More and more of Minecraft is moving into data packs, which is pretty neat. So many things that required .jar java mods are now first-class citizens for customisation, automatically ‘downloaded’ when you connect to a server. Pretty neat.
    13. ◴[] No.41833136[source]
    14. Twirrim ◴[] No.41833443{4}[source]
    No disagreements there, but I was just correcting misinformation in the previous post
    15. xp84 ◴[] No.41833919[source]
    Your dripping disdain for Bedrock seems pretty biased, and it seems like you have spent very little time with it. I’ve been playing it for a solid year because it’s what my kid can play (prefers touch controls) and the bedrock experience is light years away from a modern pay to win/in-game-currency focused game such as you’d find on a tablet.

    (To any reader: Skip the rest of this comment unless you are curious to hear the answer to “Isn’t Minecraft Bedrock a crappy in-game-purchase machine pretending to be a game like the crap on mobile app stores? Why would anybody ever choose it over Java?”)

    I know you said you only like the “old indie” version, but all my following comments apply to it as well since they’re about its huge omissions.

    Going back to Java with its archaic menu system and weird, drifty controls was jarring. (I played back in Alpha and for a couple years after, then stopped until using Bedrock last year).

    Bedrock supports simple LAN multiplayer! Java makes this possible only if you have a real computer (server) and know how. Any people playing Bedrock can play a LAN game with zero preparation, even 3 consoles, a PC, and an iPad.

    It contains a listing of 5 or 6 servers, yes, which is 5-6 more than Java includes helpful links to. You can also click below that and type in an IP.

    Yes, avatar costume items cost money. It’s because yes, 5-year-olds cannot use the Java skin editing mechanism of “just make a PNG file.” Of course, that’s all Java even has or had. And Bedrock has that as a free option too.

    Overall the marketplace is something trivially easy to ignore (btw the actual game costs $20 so it’s not “freemium”.) It’s just another option on the main menu. But my kid has “bought” all manner of both fun and educational stuff on that marketplace for completely free so I’m glad it’s there. There’s a bunch of free stuff on there. One really cool thing I liked was the special “15 year journey” map and modpacks they put up for the occasion of the game’s 15th anniversary.

    Again I know there are a ton of free mods for Java but that whole scene has become a nightmare for me with all these various weird third party programs I have to use to “apply” the mods. Again, not really a safe situation either to just have even a young teen on Google looking for downloads which may or may not be Minecraft mods. Or even non-tech-savvy adults, tbh.

    replies(1): >>41834377 #
    16. jawngee ◴[] No.41834377{3}[source]
    > Bedrock supports simple LAN multiplayer! Java makes this > possible only if you have a real computer (server) and know > how. Any people playing Bedrock can play a LAN game with > zero preparation, even 3 consoles, a PC, and an iPad.

    You can do this with Java. After you start a new world you select "Open to LAN" in the settings menu.

    > Again I know there are a ton of free mods for Java but that whole scene has > become a nightmare for me with all these various weird third party programs > I have to use to “apply” the mods. Again, not really a safe situation either to > just have even a young teen on Google looking for downloads which may or > may not be Minecraft mods. Or even non-tech-savvy adults, tbh.

    Nobody is downloading mods from Google. Modrinth, CurseForge and Prism are all very straightforward apps. You download the mods within those apps and they (mostly) handle dependencies. It's 1 click to launch Minecraft after that. My 6 and 9 year old use them easily and only one of them is a genius - but I won't say which one out of fear they might read these comments after I pass.

    They both prefer Java fwiw.

    And Essential mod gives you costume editing as well as making playing with friends even easier than it already is. https://essential.gg/

    replies(1): >>41854889 #
    17. Nullabillity ◴[] No.41835868{3}[source]
    Not if you want to connect from the console ports without very awkward hacks (and if you're on PC you wouldn't be running Bedrock in the first place).
    18. xp84 ◴[] No.41854889{4}[source]
    I was dead wrong about LAN, my bad. I happened to have seen that option just today as my son wanted to play a game of Hardcore.