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chx ◴[] No.41822612[source]
According to https://make.wordpress.org/plugins/2021/02/16/reminder-forke... this is piracy.

Let's look at newer documentation:

https://developer.wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-org/detail...

> The use of trademarks or other projects as the sole or initial term of a plugin slug is prohibited unless proof of legal ownership/representation can be confirmed

The plugin is at https://wordpress.org/plugins/advanced-custom-fields and advanced custom fields filed for trademark last December https://trademarks.justia.com/983/21/advanced-custom-9832116...

Also

https://developer.wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-org/plugin...

> We also don’t accept 100% copies of other people’s work

There's a clause which looks applicable https://developer.wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-org/plugin...

> What happens to a plugin if the plugin owner gets blocked?

however the page says "Last Updated: 12 October 2024" and https://github.com/WordPress/developer-plugins-handbook/blob... (permalink at the time of writing this) doesn't have this section. So it really looks someone manually edited the page on wordpress.org without editing the source. Now, who has such permissions and has the motive to do this?

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geerlingguy ◴[] No.41823058[source]
I feel so bad for all the Wordpress devs and shops right now. This is not the kind of community turmoil I'd want to deal with leading up to holidays/new years!

It makes Drupal 8/Backdrop seem like a pleasant and wonderful experience, in comparison.

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chx ◴[] No.41823115{3}[source]
I don't think there was any bad blood between Drupal 8 and Backdrop, was there? It was forked in 2013 and look https://www.drupal.org/u/jenlampton Jen was still doing BADCamps and went to DrupalCons and all that. My memory is fuzzy a little but I do remember we were making huge progress on migrate at BADCamp 2014 and I do not remember a single tense moment with Jen or Nate. Or was that 2013? But even if it was, that was after the fork. Nate also went to DrupalCons look https://www.drupal.org/u/quicksketch

In short, I know I considered Backdrop futile but I don't think there was any significant controversy or is my memory failing me? http://www.drupal4hu.com/node/380 here's my post from the time.

Truth to be told there was significantly more controversy between me and the rest of the Drupal community than Backdrop and Drupal. You can not imagine how much I regret that.

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geerlingguy ◴[] No.41823827{4}[source]
True; I'm just thinking back to the absolute worst drama I can think of in Drupal land, it all pales in comparison. Most of it was misunderstandings that were subsequently sorted, or like Backdrop just a friendly fork with community connections still intact.
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1. chx ◴[] No.41823990{5}[source]
I'm glad but slightly surprised neither Crell nor me counts as worst drama for you. Good? I guess.
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2. geerlingguy ◴[] No.41824985[source]
Well instances were both painful but in my mind mostly affected a few core groups of devs, and a lot of the community was oblivious to anything going on. The Drupal 8 migration and subsequent forking of D7 into Backdrop caused a lot more consternation with smaller agencies especially.

I mostly did Drupal stuff with local and regional camps at the time, I was hired at Acquia slightly after, so I remember a lot of pain back then, especially as Wordpress and Drupal were often considered in the same meetings when building small local sites for nonprofits, small businesses, etc.

Nowadays it seems Drupal isn't part of the conversation unless there's a C-suite at the place building the website, it's moved upmarket quite a bit.

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3. chx ◴[] No.41827551[source]
It sure did. Dries cashed out thanks said upwards movement and then he realized this move destroyed the contributor pipeline (make a personal/charity/etc small website-tinker Drupal-contribute to Drupal) and also market share so he now tries to move it back down with Starshot. I wish him the best.