"Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

Chrome to Firefox is a relatively easy switch, especially for those that don’t depend on Google sync. The main sources of friction for me were the lack of a good profile switching UI (solved with a browser extension that mimics the Chrome menu), and weird security requirements for homemade extensions (IIRC if you want to have the extension persist after restarting Firefox, you need to sign the extension, which is a pain)

For users switching from Arc, there is no good alternative, but Firefox with Sidebery and custom CSS comes close.

> For users switching from Arc, there is no good alternative, but Firefox with Sidebery and custom CSS comes close.

I would suggest zen browser [1] for those people.

[1] https://zen-browser.app

uBlock Origin + Multi Account Containers makes Firefox enjoyable to use.

Main reason I'm still using Chrome and can't switch to Firefox: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/feature-suggestion-fire...

I'd like to pop in and say Waterfox also has a list of comparable features: https://www.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comments/1ff0kzz/comment/l...

Arc has a built-in adblocker, so it depends if you're tied specifically to uBlock Origin (non-lite) features.

I'm not sure what other extensions would be broken in Manifest v3.

There is something wrong with your Firefox installation (maybe try a new profile with vanilla settings). I use search shortcuts all the time (w + spacebar for wikipedia) and it's exactly the same behavior in Firefox than Chrome/Edge.

One feature that is missing, removed, from Firefox is PWA's/running sites as apps. This is super handy for low trust apps

I love Mozilla, but I’m concerned about its future. Since 80% of its income reportedly comes from the Google search deal, do they have a plan to replace it after the recent ruling? And can they maintain their current level of autonomy while doing so?

hm i'll post this in the thread over there later but i'm pretty sure ff has that?

https://imgur.com/a/gXrsBq3

I've been using Floorp for a while to get proper vertical tabs.

Note that Firefox profile management is getting an overhaul right now, including an easy profile switching UI. I'm not sure when it will be landing in release, but it is being actively built!

I don't know if this is what you meant, but as an alternative to profile switching, there are Multi Account Containers [1]. It allows assigning a container to each tab, and the containers are isolated from each other. If you have an MS or Google account for both work and personal, you can open them at the same time in different tabs.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Firefox containers are amazing

In the past I've had a lot of issues with Google properties not working properly on Firefox -- either outright broken or using crazy amounts of CPU on Firefox but not Chromium-based browsers. Does anyone know if this is still an issue? I'd love to try again before I'm forced to by uBO breaking.

The Android version of Firefox still doesn't have working keyboard shortcuts after 13 years or a way to delete individual history items to prevent broken auto complete. The money is going into lots of other things than the browser.

Profile is already available in Firefox(before chrome implemented it). Details on how to use it: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-...

Also in chrome, multiple profiles need multiple google account(If I understand the UI correctly)connected, but in Firefox no account is needed.

this is such a killer feature I don't understand why it even is an extension, every browser that isn't adversarial to the user should have that feature tbh

I don't know much about Arc. But Arc users could give Firefox "Nightly" a try to preview new features coming up. It has vertical tabs and you can "pin" a few tabs at the top. Nightly also has containers already built-in, so you can have multiple accounts open for the same site in different container tabs.

> Also in chrome, multiple profiles need multiple google account(If I understand the UI correctly)connected, but in Firefox no account is needed.

You can use Chrome with multiple profiles by disabling the "Allow Chrome sign-in" option so that none of your browser profiles are tied to a Google account. I don't know if that option can be toggled on a per-profile basis, because I happen to prefer it off for all of my browser profiles.

Killing adblocking in Chrome might be a boost they need to attract someone else to pay for being the landing search page. I doubt if anyone will pay as much as google though. Or probably even close.

I've tried to switch from Vivaldi to Floorp and there is some things that Firefox does that drive me absolutely nuts.

The main one is the behaviour of pinned tabs. Pinning in Firefox turns it into an icon that is harder to hit and doesn't even protect it from closing. This makes them essentially useless, they should be moved to the front of the tab bar and be protected from closing.

The second is that when you use vertical tabs the tab bar acts like a title bar instead of a separate entity. This means you can't double click to create a new tab, and trying to drag a tab often results in the entire window moving. I have to use Tree style tabs and disable the normal tab bar completely to prevent this.

There are also things that I don't like such as how downloads are handled and I've has issues with my session tabs being saved properly.

I'm not sure keyboard shortcuts for a version designed to run on an OS for devices without keyboards will ever be a priority. You can use a keyboard on an Android device, but the vast, vast majority of Android devices are phones that never get used with keyboards. I don't expect there's much priority to adding that feature.

I agree that a lot of money is going to things other than the browser though.

I've found it hard to teach people how to use but it is a killer feature.

Many people use tablets and foldables with keyboards

I'm using using multiple profiles when I want to have a different set of extensions, bookmarks and browsing history. Multi Account Containers help with none of that.

> they should be moved to the front of the tab bar and be protected from closing.

Firefox pinned tabs are moved to the LHS of the tab bar, they have no close button and ctrl-W doesn't close them. How much more do you want them to be protected from closing?

This is actually one thing where Firefox is clearly better than Chrome ... Chrome pinned tabs close with ctrl-W which is really easy to do accidentally.

same here, the one thing keeping me on chrome

This is insanely overdue.

This same conversation plays out every time someone mentions profile switching that is responded with "container tabs".

Which bugzilla # is it. I can only find decades old requests for such a feature that are closed as WONTFIX.

Middle click still closes tabs which is my most frequent way to close tabs.

As I mentioned Vivaldi is my Chromium based browser of choice, and it is far better in the handling of pinned tabs. They go up to a separate section at the start of the tab list without reducing in size, and then they absolutely cannot be closed without unpinning the tab first