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AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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944 points 6a74 | 4 comments | 10 Oct 24 14:16 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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dcchambers ◴[10 Oct 24 19:31 UTC] No.41802586[source]▶
From a performance and technical perspective this is incredible. Well done!

It will never happen, but my dream is for the Asahi devs, Valve, and Apple to all get together to build out a cross-platform Proton to emulate and play games built for Windows on both x86 and ARM hardware running Linux.

A Steam Deck with the performance and power efficiency of an M-series ARM chip and the entire library of games that run on Proton is just...dreamy.

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bmicraft ◴[10 Oct 24 21:56 UTC] No.41804002[source]▶
An ARM CPU only emulating x86 isn't going to be more efficient than straight x86. ARM is barely more efficient as it is at those performance levels.

The real reason Apple is ahead is because they're paying for more expensive more advanced nodes for their CPUs. I you compare CPUs on similar node sizes, you'll see that AMD and Intel are basically caught up architecturally in perf/W metrics.

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aurareturn ◴[10 Oct 24 23:55 UTC] No.41804770[source]▶
This is definitely not true. M3 is 2x - 3x more efficient than Lunar Lake on the same N3B node.
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adgjlsfhk1 ◴[11 Oct 24 00:35 UTC] No.41804992[source]▶
I don't think that's true. M3 has much better idle/near-idle power draw, but actual performance per watt when doing things is pretty close.
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1. aurareturn ◴[11 Oct 24 00:58 UTC] No.41805107{3}[source]▶
No, it’s the other way around. Intel has generally caught up in idle power draw but is still severely behind in performance per watt.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Lunar-Lake-CPU-analysis-...

https://youtu.be/ymoiWv9BF7Q

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2. hedora ◴[11 Oct 24 03:34 UTC] No.41805766[source]▶
The last I checked, there low wattage AMD and high wattage Apple had similar performance and wattage, so AMD was the right choice for raw performance, and Apple won for portable devices.

Intel was losing badly to one or the other at all TDPs. I don’t get the impression that’s changed much. (Even if it has, I can’t remember the last time I encountered a non-xeon intel machine with working hardware and drivers (for any OS, and I tried Windows, Linux and macs).

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3. aurareturn ◴[11 Oct 24 04:39 UTC] No.41806193[source]▶
AMD does not win over Apple for raw portal performance. AMD does give you a lot of MT performance for a decent price. You have to buy an M3 Pro to match an AMD HX 370. However, you’re sacrificing battery life, quietness, portability, and ST performance with AMD.
4. Brybry ◴[11 Oct 24 08:24 UTC] No.41807453[source]▶
Remember that the latest Intel chips are a TSMC process node now, that's a pretty big change.