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AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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spease ◴[10 Oct 24 16:29 UTC] No.41800525[source]▶
This is super cool.

So, wait, does this mean that gaming is better on Linux, on a Mac?

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m463 ◴[10 Oct 24 21:30 UTC] No.41803779[source]▶
If you mean "I have a mac, is it better to run linux to game?"

Then there's a case for it, since you can run AAA games that apple + macos doesn't support / allow.

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1. kergonath ◴[10 Oct 24 22:17 UTC] No.41804125[source]▶
You’d need to compare with what can be done on macOS including with things like crossover and the GPT. AFAICT, the Linux side is making progress, but still more games can be run from macOS.
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2. talldayo ◴[10 Oct 24 22:35 UTC] No.41804270[source]▶
> AFAICT, the Linux side is making progress, but still more games can be run from macOS.

I don't believe that's true. According to ProtonDB, 80% of the top-1000 most-played games on Steam are confirmed working on Linux: https://www.protondb.com/dashboard

I haven't seen any source documenting nearly similar success rates with Mac but I also haven't seriously tried gaming on Apple Silicon.

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3. whimsicalism ◴[10 Oct 24 23:03 UTC] No.41804458[source]▶
steam deck is x86
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4. talldayo ◴[10 Oct 24 23:13 UTC] No.41804524{3}[source]▶
What a coincidence! So are a variety of Macs that shipped with hardware supporting Linux and Vulkan on day 1.
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5. russelg ◴[10 Oct 24 23:25 UTC] No.41804593{4}[source]▶
Yes, but this thread is about Asahi Linux, which is for M series Macbooks. Not x86.
6. achandlerwhite ◴[11 Oct 24 00:43 UTC] No.41805032[source]▶
The Mac efforts rely on MoltenVK for and Vulkan needs which itself relies on the underlying Metal API. As I understand it Asahi/Honeykrisp driver for Vulkan does not rely on the Metal API so it actually can do more conformant Vulkan than Crossover/Whisky can. For example tranform feedback and other geometry shader stuff will work on Asahi. MoltenVK is working on it, but not there yet.
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7. dagmx ◴[11 Oct 24 00:57 UTC] No.41805103[source]▶
You’re ignoring D3DMetal which is what is most commonly going to be used and equivalent to what Proton is doing to convert D3D to VK.

Most games are D3D. A very small minority are Vulkan from the get go.

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8. achandlerwhite ◴[11 Oct 24 17:05 UTC] No.41811258{3}[source]▶
On many games I have tried DX => DXVK => MoltenVk => Metal is significantly faster than DX => D3DMetal. For example XCOM2 is about twice the frames per second (yeah it has an official Mac version but it is even slower).