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pabs3 ◴[] No.41643508[source]
BTW: in the EU there is movement towards mandating ISPs allow BYOD, including fibre ONTs.

https://fsfe.org/activities/routers/

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the_mitsuhiko ◴[] No.41644682[source]
I think it's vital that you can run your own modem but I'm not convinced that it's a good idea to force a custom ONT. An ONT is about as dumb as it gets and it's entirely transparent on the stack.

The benefit with an ONT (or even DOCSIS dumb modem) managed by the ISP is that they can do fleet upgrades much quicker as they don't have to keep all old protocols running. For instance the GPON -> XGSPON upgrade that some ISPs are running right now (or DOCSIS 3 upgrade) really only works well if you can turn off the old protocol which requires swapping out all ONTs/DOCSIS modems.

If customers bring their own stuff then you're stuck with these things for much longer.

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1. teeray ◴[] No.41646849[source]
That’s all great and wonderful, but I shouldn’t have to pay to rent a device that really only benefits the ISP. I would rather have a slick ONU SFP+ module in my router, than yet another plastic block on my telecom panel I need to find space and power for. “This makes our network easier to manage” AND “we make extra money doing this” is double-dipping.