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    Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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    420 points rvz | 19 comments | 31 Aug 24 13:28 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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    pfraze ◴[31 Aug 24 23:15 UTC] No.41412758[source]▶
    Copying over my latest backend status update; figure folks would find it interesting

    Servers are holding up so far! Fortunately we were overprovisioned. If we hit 4mm new signups then things should get interesting. We did have some degradations (user handles entering an invalid state, event-stream crashed a couple times, algo crashed a couple times, image servers hit bad latencies) but we managed to avoid a full outage.

    We use an event-sourcing model which is: K/V database for primary storage (actually sqlite), into a golang event stream, then into scylladb for computed views. Various separate services for search, algorithms, and images. Hybrid on-prem & cloud. There are ~20 of the k/v servers, 1 event-stream, 2 scylla clusters (I believe).

    The event-stream crash would cause the application to stop making progress on ingesting events, but we still got the writes, so you'd see eg likes failing to increment the counter but then magically taking effect 60 seconds later. Since the scylla cluster and the KV stores stayed online, we avoided a full outage.

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    1. delichon ◴[31 Aug 24 23:59 UTC] No.41412984[source]▶
    Does Bluesky intend to be responsive to the kind of court orders that X rejected?
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    2. mwilcox ◴[01 Sep 24 00:21 UTC] No.41413084[source]▶
    Clearly given he is excited to receive the traffic
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    3. pfraze ◴[01 Sep 24 00:24 UTC] No.41413102[source]▶
    Speaking entirely personally as I don't handle those questions at bsky. I couldn't even begin to comment without seeing knowing what the court orders were and what the cases are. Every social company operating internationally runs into this issue, and it's daunting to say the least. So, again, this is not something I decide.

    What I can say is that the protocol is a neutral global layer for data, which can then enable multiple applications with their own moderation policies and decisions. There's always going to be moderation decisions we make that people will disagree with. The point is that something can be done about that disagreement - you can have other applications on the same network that makes their own decisions. I think one of the best things that could happen is that Brazilian developers fork the Bluesky app and build locally-owned social platforms on the atmosphere.

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    4. meiraleal ◴[01 Sep 24 00:26 UTC] No.41413116[source]▶
    Interestingly, the cohort moving to Bluesky isn't the same as those who were having trouble with the law.
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    5. Kye ◴[01 Sep 24 00:29 UTC] No.41413130[source]▶
    Context: atmosphere is like "Fediverse" but for the AT protocol and also way more schway
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    6. jrflowers ◴[01 Sep 24 00:45 UTC] No.41413217[source]▶
    Can you elaborate on this? I’m not clear what you mean here.
    7. siproprio ◴[01 Sep 24 01:43 UTC] No.41413529{3}[source]▶
    Yes. Brazilians were censored and moved to bluesky. Elon musk has problems with the law! Absolutely no overlap whatsoever. Also very interesting in its own way.
    8. throwaway48476 ◴[01 Sep 24 01:44 UTC] No.41413531[source]▶
    >Brazilian developers fork the Bluesky app and build locally-owned social platforms on the atmosphere.

    This makes it easy to send thugs to their house and 'encourage' them to comply with any political demand. Jurisdictional arbitrage, particularly sites hosted in America following the first amendment is the only thing keeping anti authoritarian speech alive in authoritarian regimes.

    https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/audio-pakistan-global-critics

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    9. mensetmanusman ◴[01 Sep 24 01:57 UTC] No.41413589[source]▶
    No, it is a game of whack a mole.
    10. brightball ◴[01 Sep 24 02:17 UTC] No.41413678[source]▶
    X has just started sharing all of them in response.

    https://x.com/alexandrefiles/status/1829979981130416479?s=46...

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    11. chrisweekly ◴[01 Sep 24 02:56 UTC] No.41413872{3}[source]▶
    I had to check, and urbandictionary confirms, "schway" is

    > "A word to use when something is astonishingly cool, fashionable, or popular."

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    13. Kye ◴[01 Sep 24 05:31 UTC] No.41414543{4}[source]▶
    I got it from Batman Beyond.
    14. crossroadsguy ◴[01 Sep 24 07:29 UTC] No.41415005[source]▶
    Something tells me at the least bsky will not begin a name calling primary school attack with a supreme court justice of a sovereign nation while using abusive names for the president of that country all the while using childish fake AI generated graphics.

    PS. Somehow all of this feels very natural when done by Musk. It kind of makes sense. It feels like “yes yes, he’d do this”.

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    15. rapsey ◴[01 Sep 24 07:36 UTC] No.41415027[source]▶
    A supreme court judge clearly acting against the laws of their state, but somehow Musk is the bad guy.
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    16. bilvar ◴[01 Sep 24 07:59 UTC] No.41415112{3}[source]▶
    We arrived at the point that people are celebrating censorship and authoritarianism because of their irrational hatred of one guy.
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    17. Ygg2 ◴[01 Sep 24 08:36 UTC] No.41415261{4}[source]▶
    That's how it always works. "You see the problem with not dealing with XYZ is that the government/judicial/legislative doesn't have enough power to tackle XYZ."

    You grant them power they asked. They don't deal with it, but ask for more power. At some point they stop asking and label you as the problem.

    18. antimemetics ◴[01 Sep 24 12:28 UTC] No.41416431{3}[source]▶
    Rather someone on Twitter shared some text - these aren’t the original court orders - they are at best a paraphrase by someone with a certain agenda.
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    19. brightball ◴[01 Sep 24 18:29 UTC] No.41419095{4}[source]▶
    Full orders are being shared as well.

    https://x.com/AlexandreFiles/status/1829980105567059997

    They are doing a daily dump.