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Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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420 points rvz | 14 comments | 31 Aug 24 13:28 UTC | HN request time: 0.203s | source | bottom
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joejohnson ◴[31 Aug 24 14:27 UTC] No.41409095[source]▶
Hopefully most people migrate to one of the alternatives not owned by an American oligarch
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adventured ◴[31 Aug 24 14:34 UTC] No.41409158[source]▶
There are no possible alternatives to US based services unless you enjoy extreme restrictions on speech. Europe has become a big no-go zone for speech over the past decade, they're outright hostile and authoritarian about it (with only a few exceptions among European nations). And the direction re liberalism and human rights in Europe is overwhelmingly hostile toward speech. And for South America, Africa and Asia you can entirely forget about it, there are no reliable speech protected locations in any of those.
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1. morkalork ◴[31 Aug 24 14:47 UTC] No.41409264[source]▶
Social media is trending towards regional balkanisation. Governments are clueing into the fact giving everyone including foreign states free reign to broadcast to, and manipulate, their constituants is a bad idea. Just look at what happened in the UK recently with the riots. Twitter's days are numbered there.
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2. chipdart ◴[31 Aug 24 17:32 UTC] No.41410397[source]▶
> Social media is trending towards regional balkanisation.

By choosing to frame things like that, it almost sounds like multinational monopolies on social media controlled by murderous fascist regimes and used to push industrial loads of machine-generated propaganda is something that's somehow preferable.

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3. morkalork ◴[31 Aug 24 19:26 UTC] No.41411240[source]▶
Your new digital town square brought to you in part by the House of Saud, where there's free speech for everyone but some accounts are more equal than others and cisgender is a slur.
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4. chipdart ◴[31 Aug 24 20:08 UTC] No.41411568{3}[source]▶
Saudi Arabia is of course Twitter's second largest shareholder.

But Twitter is also owned by Russian oligarchs linked to Putin himself.

https://www.dw.com/en/what-do-xs-alleged-ties-to-russian-oli...

We're talking about Elon Musk's Twitter, who around the time of Russia's invasion of Ukraine was found to have hardcoded censorship of pro-ukraine content as well as users who posted pro-Ukraine content on Twitter.

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5. declan_roberts ◴[01 Sep 24 00:29 UTC] No.41413136[source]▶
You believe the riots in UK are because of twitter?

People are living in parallel universes.

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6. sega_sai ◴[01 Sep 24 01:15 UTC] No.41413390[source]▶
They were to large extent provoked by misinformation about the attacker on kids party. The misinformation stayed on twitter for long time and was spread out by many people including Musk.
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7. throwaway48476 ◴[01 Sep 24 01:58 UTC] No.41413600{3}[source]▶
If you believe that I have a colour revolution theory to sell you.
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8. churchill ◴[01 Sep 24 02:40 UTC] No.41413795{4}[source]▶
A crazed 17yo son of African immigrants murdered 3 kids. Then, the far-right seized on it to make assumptions about the attacker, speculate he was a Muslim, and even provide a fake name. In fact, some of these Twitter accounts (Tristan Tate, etc.) shared the picture of a young Black preacher as the attacker. I saw it and I know when the post disappeared from EndWokeness' and Tristan Tate's page while I was reading through the comments. The young man in question had to make video clarifying he wasn't the attacker.
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9. churchill ◴[01 Sep 24 03:00 UTC] No.41413892{6}[source]▶
LMAo. I just gave you an objective breakdown of what happened and suddenly, I'm prone to conspiracy theories? I gave you the info of two people Elon Musk has platformed explicitly (EndWokeness, Tate brothers) and how they inflamed the riots across the UK, and somehow, what you deduced is that I'm a conspiracy theory type?
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10. throwaway48476 ◴[01 Sep 24 03:07 UTC] No.41413932{7}[source]▶
You are alleging some kind of conspiracy where a few twitter accounts are able to spread misinformation that somehow a hundred thousand people see and act upon in coordination.

The british protests/riot mass movement cannot be attributed to misinformation any more than the Arab spring can be attributed to the police mistreating the Tunisian merchant.

11. petre ◴[01 Sep 24 05:36 UTC] No.41414573{4}[source]▶
This is just speculation. I see videos from Ukraine sticking it to the Russians like every other day from Twitter, shared with the news. Also from Telegram channels. The most recent one was with a downed Su-25. Here:

https://x.com/igorsushko/status/1828661567094984774

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12. macinjosh ◴[01 Sep 24 05:42 UTC] No.41414609[source]▶
A bad idea for who? The people in power of course.

Seems like this is a case of not letting the prisoners talk to each other too much lest they start to have some ideas of their own.

13. chipdart ◴[01 Sep 24 10:19 UTC] No.41415679{5}[source]▶
> This is just speculation.

This is not speculation. When Elon Musk did that stunt on open-sourcing Twitter's source code right after Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the source code explicitly included references to the Russian invasion of Ukraine in hardcoded rules to downrank discussions on the topic.

https://gizmodo.com/twitter-musk-ukraine-crisis-open-source-...

This is just the stuff he accidentally leaked.

14. signatoremo ◴[01 Sep 24 15:35 UTC] No.41417758{4}[source]▶
The majority of pro-Ukraine content used by journalists are on Twitter. Has always been the case since the very beginning of the war. Take a look at any article on TWZ, like the most recent one:

https://www.twz.com/news-features/ukraine-pushing-slowly-wes...