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geerlingguy ◴[] No.41276702[source]
I've used this for years when passing large files between systems in weird network environments, it's almost always flawless.

For some more exotic testing, I was able to run my own magic wormhole relay[1], which let me tweak some things for faster/more reliable huge file copies. I still hate how often Google Drive will fall over when you throw a 10s-of-GB file at it.

[1] https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/my-own-magic-wormhole...

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bscphil ◴[] No.41277698[source]
> For some more exotic testing, I was able to run my own magic wormhole relay[1], which let me tweak some things for faster/more reliable huge file copies.

The lack of improvement in these tools is pretty devastating. There was a flurry of activity around PAKEs like 6 years ago now, but we're still missing:

* reliable hole punching so you don't need a slow relay server

* multiple simultaneous TCP streams (or a carefully designed UDP protocol) to get large amounts of data through long fat pipes quickly

Last time I tried using a Wormhole to transmit a large amount of data, I was limited to 20 MB/sec thanks to the bandwidth-delay product. I ended up using plain old http, with aria2c and multiple streams I maxed out a 1 Gbps line.

IMO there's no reason why PAKE tools shouldn't have completely displaced over-complicated stuff like Globus (proprietary) for long distance transfer of huge data, but here we are stuck in the past.

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croemer ◴[] No.41279150[source]
20MB/sec is 160Mbps, so wormhole wasn't that far off the 1Gbps. Sure not maxing out but within a factor of 6.
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dgoldstein0 ◴[] No.41279911[source]
^ found the astronomer
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anonymousiam ◴[] No.41280526[source]
I (Electrical + Software Engineer) once worked for a physicist who believed that anything less than an order of magnitude was merely an engineering problem. He was usually correct.
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1. bscphil ◴[] No.41285264[source]
An order of magnitude isn't a defined quantity, it depends on what base you're working in.
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2. newaccount74 ◴[] No.41292709[source]
The difference between log 2, ln, and log 10 is less than an order of magnitude, so to a physicist it's all the same :)