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0xEF ◴[] No.41199904[source]
I hate that it kicks off with "DISCLAIMER: This is not my work. I would never and don't condone illegal hacking of scammers"

You know what? I do. We all should. These scammers are awful people and deserve to be attacked. I am tired of toothless authorities like CISA and the alphabet agencies in the US doing next to nothing about it unless some YouTube scam baiter does the work for them. Scammers destroy people, not just financially, but emotionally as well, even driving some victims to suicide. As far as I am concerned, any wannabe hacker out there should be using these scammers for target practice.

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bluGill ◴[] No.41201432[source]
I don't because some scammers will find ways to frame their enemies. If you attack the person/organizations doing the scam fine - but don't attack an innocent organization. Most of vigilantes are not careful to tell the difference.
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codetrotter ◴[] No.41201545[source]
Exactly! People are not trained in gathering and interpreting evidence. And when they are “investigating” something that is personally affecting them there is probably even greater chance of them jumping to conclusions and acting rashly. Emotions will cloud judgement. And judgement was lacking in the first place because they are not trained in how to investigate matters and they are not familiar with tactics that criminals use to make it appear like they are someone else.

Several years ago when I still had a Facebook account there was a guy that DMed me yelling at me and accusing me of trying to “hack him”. His evidence? The reverse DNS record for a server was pointing to a domain I owned. I replied and told him the reverse record was out of date. I had previously rented a VPS with that IP address and I had had the reverse record point to my domain. I had since cancelled the rental of that VPS and now the hosting company had assigned the IP to someone else. Apparently the hosting company had not bothered to remove the reverse DNS record from their systems so it was still pointing to my domain. The guy that was yelling at me was of course too stupid to understand this when I explained it to him so I gave up on trying to educate him and blocked him from being able to send me any more DMs.

Now imagine if this guy had started a full-on retaliation campaign based on his misguided “evidence”. Luckily for me I never heard or seen from him again.

But yeah, that kind of thing is exactly why “vigilante justice” is such an incredibly dangerous and stupid idea.

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1. indigodaddy ◴[] No.41206698[source]
One could also say that you did not bother to remove or request your host to remove, the PTR record prior to your cancellation.
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2. codetrotter ◴[] No.41206884[source]
Yes, that is true as well. I wrongly assumed that just like how I expect the VPS host to safely overwrite storage of when the VPS is deleted/decommissioned that they would automatically remove PTR records from their DNS servers relating to that VPS. There is, after all, absolutely no reason why they shouldn’t delete the PTR records that a customer created for an IP address when that IP address is no longer in control of the customer. But indeed the whole ordeal would have been avoided had I myself gone and deleted the PTR before I removed the VPS.
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3. indigodaddy ◴[] No.41210696[source]
Yep, absolutely, I’ve forgotten a couple of times and am always annoyed with myself when I see it remaining however long later after the fact..