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notepad0x90 ◴[] No.41031421[source]
I'd like to see a proper journalistic investigation into every other EDR sensor on Linux as well. I really hate it when supposed journalists look for an angle and pursue it without critical thinking.

But they could be right, they may have an issue in their engineering department recently.

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Speaking of,I wanted to mention a slightly related observation I've had recently scrolling through twitter (unfortunately) looking for information on this crisis. There are a lot of people who at least know enough technical jargon to probably work in IT or technology but they're using arguments like "it must be because of a DEI hire", for those who are unaware they're using "DEI" as a replacement for a hard-r N-word. In other words, I just learned that blatant racists are not a rarity in our corner of the world. If you're not one of them, I wanted to inform you of what they really mean. Fortunately I haven't seen this on HN so far :)

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Rinzler89 ◴[] No.41031538[source]
>I just learned that blatant racists are not a rarity in our corner of the world.

That's what you get if you browse Twitter. Stay off mainstream Twitter for your own sanity.

> Fortunately I haven't seen this on HN so far :)

Here people just blame offshore workers for this bug or other such critical bugs, as if US workers don't make mistakes. Peoples' egos are just unbelievable. If it's not DEI developers, then it must be those filthy foreign programmers from developing nations responsible for poor quality software and I've even seen here mentioned that Windows worldwide dominance also be blamed on SW devs from developing nations for being too poor to own Macs. I despise this "holier than thou" mentality of some privileged tech workers.

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shiroiushi ◴[] No.41032032[source]
>Windows worldwide dominance also be blamed on SW devs from developing nations for being too poor to own Macs.

Linux has been a viable alternative for decades now for many tasks. This problem wasn't caused by a lack of money. If you want to blame someone for the dominance of Windows, blame corporations and managers, because they're the ones that have chosen it. SW devs from developing nations have only been doing what they perceived to be in their best economic interest.

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notepad0x90 ◴[] No.41033334[source]
I'm sorry to say that while Linux is viable for highly skilled people, managing it as you would an AD joined windows workstation or server is not as easy. finding people to run Linux is also much harder.
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shiroiushi ◴[] No.41041084[source]
Again, this is a decision by the managers and corporations, which is my whole point. They could have chosen to use Linux despite these difficulties. You can argue all you want about how much easier Windows was to administer, but ultimately it was a choice by the corporate managers to use it. Linux had its own advantages (cost, not having to worry about all the MS viruses of the 2000s, etc.) too.
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1. notepad0x90 ◴[] No.41042985[source]
If you can't afford something, for you it does not exist. Linux does not exist for those managers and corporations for the specific use cases we're talking about. If you simply can't even get an applicant for a linux admin job in your hiring pipeline, what is the point of even pretending linux exists?
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2. shiroiushi ◴[] No.41043061[source]
You still haven't invalidated my point. The managers chose Windows, instead of choosing something else, like Linux, Mac, Sun, SGI, Cray, etc., for various reasons (possibly including cost, availability of qualified employees, etc.).

They did not choose Windows because a bunch of devs from India were too poor to buy Macs, which was the original assertion.

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3. notepad0x90 ◴[] No.41044896[source]
I don't agree with the original assertion either. Yes, it was for various reasons, my point was it is not their responsibility to choose non-windows but rather the responsibility of Linux, mac ,sun,etc.. to make their product acceptable to the market.