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romankolpak ◴[] No.40716163[source]
I’m sorry if this is a stupid question, but I want to ask it because I see the same sentiment across HN and other forums and I’m legitimately confused.

If we don’t hijack privacy in messaging, how do we fight crime happening on a message platform? If government doesn’t have access to message contents, what’s stopping criminals from using the platform and never get tracked down? Or proven guilty, since all the proof is safely encrypted? Aren’t we hurting ourselves by being so obsessed with privacy? Again, I apologize for ignorance and am curious

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latexr ◴[] No.40716500[source]
> Aren’t we hurting ourselves by being so obsessed with privacy?

You’re hurting yourself more by being too lax with it. Remember that a crime is whatever the law says it is. So if an authoritarian government makes it so criticising them becomes a crime and has access to all your communication, good luck ever breaking that cycle. You can use other examples, like making homosexuality illegal.

These are real examples that real governments (or people with a good chance of being elected) want.

Remember that the ultimate goal of these laws is never to “protect the children”—that’s just the convenient given reason, because how could you be against that—but to exert more control over the populace and cement the position of those in power. Even if the current government employs the technology only for good—highly unlikely—you don’t know about the next one.

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1. account42 ◴[] No.40726826[source]
> if an authoritarian government makes it so criticising them becomes a crime

If?

https://www.lewik.org/term/15692/defamation-of-persons-in-th...