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Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

(threema.ch)
960 points andrew918277 | 1 comments | 18 Jun 24 08:49 UTC | HN request time: 0.196s | source
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romankolpak ◴[18 Jun 24 10:46 UTC] No.40716163[source]▶
I’m sorry if this is a stupid question, but I want to ask it because I see the same sentiment across HN and other forums and I’m legitimately confused.

If we don’t hijack privacy in messaging, how do we fight crime happening on a message platform? If government doesn’t have access to message contents, what’s stopping criminals from using the platform and never get tracked down? Or proven guilty, since all the proof is safely encrypted? Aren’t we hurting ourselves by being so obsessed with privacy? Again, I apologize for ignorance and am curious

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1. gitaarik ◴[19 Jun 24 04:32 UTC] No.40724839[source]▶
> If we don’t hijack privacy in messaging, how do we fight crime happening on a message platform?

Compare it to: if we don't put cameras and microphones in everybody's houses, how do we fight domestic violence?

You can't control everything, and you shouldn't want to. Giving a certain small group control over a much larger group is not a good idea, because you can never know that that small group will handle their power responsibly.

And domestic violence and crime happening on messaging platforms can still be dealt with in the traditional way: through our court system. And that happens and it works and it is fair (at least in essence, not counting corruption).