"needs root and patches to AOSP". So there go the banking apps mentioned elsewhere and you can just use postmarketOS.
Still cool though!
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Still cool though!
(small nit: does "whom" even go there?)
They're protecting the TEE because they do not want third parties to be able to automate Google Pay through modified software. This isn't necessarily just about normal end users but more like smartphone farms.
Why do Transesophageal Echocardiograms[0] need protecting, and from whom do such diagnostics require protection?
I expect I'm missing something, but a web search for 'TEE' only returns that diagnostic test.[1]
[0] https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/atrial-fibrillation/tran...
[1] Moral: Don't assume everyone knows what a particular acronym means. Just because it's in your head doesn't mean everyone else knows what you mean.[2] E.g., if I say 'JRE' I mean 'Java Runtime Environment' and not 'Joe Rogan Experience'.
[2] According to Piaget[3], people are able to identify that others don't know what's in their heads sometime between ages two and seven.
[3] https://psychcentral.com/health/piaget-stages-of-development...
To me, your comment comes across as having a rude and insulting tone.
I think the person you were replying to read it in a similar tone to me based on their response. ("No need to be patronizing.")
Is that the tone you intended?
A better way of handling it may have been with a simple, "What does TEE mean in this context please? Googling it didn't help me."
I'm asking the question rather than assuming it was intentional, as you put more effort into your comment than is necessary to just be rude.
It feels like you may have been trying to be helpful and just misjudged the tone. Maybe as a fellow neurodivergent person.
> According to Piaget[3], people are able to identify that others don't know what's in their heads sometime between ages two and seven.
is a little far to be a simple misjudged tone, even if it was intended as a joke. I did find it a bit funny but it still felt a bit insulting too.
No. Not a joke. Just pointing out something you already knew: That I (or anyone else) don't know what's going on inside your mind unless you tell me.
That you ignored such a simple truth and didn't think to define your terms was a waste of my time. As such, I felt insulted at your (apparent) complete lack of respect for the time and attention of others.
Take that as insulting if you wish, and if you find it insulting enough, please ignore me completely going forward. I promise you I won't mind.
Have a good day!
My neglecting to define it was not because I was ignoring that not everyone knows everything I do.
There are quite a few acronyms that are widespread enough on HN (or in programming in general) to be used without defining them anew every single time (such as, say, "API"). I hadn't considered that of those, "TEE" is not one. That doesn't mean I don't understand the concept of individual knowledge, only that I don't always put a complete effort into my drive-by comments, and evidently had not into that one.
Even at that point, it would have taken less time for you to ask for a definition without additional remarks that imply I should have known better. Who are you to imply I didn't know better? I'd say that was the real waste of your time, considering it makes up over 50% of the comment.
Additionally, I don't have a "complete lack of respect" for others' time and attention. I would've edited the comment to fix it if it had still been within the edit window. I apologized for having left the definition out because that was an honest mistake, and it was never meant to waste anyone's time or attention. Even before the apology, I don't think it was very reasonable for you to have assumed that the waste of time was intentional, and replied in the way you did.
> Take that as insulting if you wish, and if you find it insulting enough, please ignore me completely going forward. I promise you I won't mind.
I generally don't ignore people until I have nothing left to say to them. But yes, people (myself included) typically find it insulting when you assume bad faith of them. If this was truly your intention, then it is not just my fault for "wishing" to take it as insulting. Your tone has an impact on how others perceive you.
To be blunt, if you are rude on purpose and proceed not to care about how it makes others feel, that behavior isn't welcome here. I can understand if you felt frustrated that I didn't define my acronyms, but that's no reason to lash out about it, even when it's in the form of mere patronizing remarks.
You have a good day too.