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Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

(threema.ch)
960 points andrew918277 | 2 comments | 18 Jun 24 08:49 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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darby_nine ◴[18 Jun 24 09:28 UTC] No.40715654[source]▶
I find it somewhat disturbing that this sort of thing is not considered a career killer for politicians.
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wickedsickeune ◴[18 Jun 24 09:51 UTC] No.40715791[source]▶
In Greece, we recently elected as representatives for the EU Parliament:

* a 71 year old lady, with no social media and no public speeches ever.

* a guy who used a nickname for his last name, that matched with a military general (who is well known), and many people thought he was the general

* a "journalist" that was caught twice talking on live TV, conversing with a pre-recorded video

* a convicted criminal

It's impressive to manage to fail as a politician.

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HPsquared ◴[18 Jun 24 10:16 UTC] No.40715945[source]▶
Goes to show how disengaged the voters are.
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harha ◴[18 Jun 24 10:36 UTC] No.40716081[source]▶
Quite difficult to be engaged with the selection of candidates. It’s really quite the struggle to find someone halfway decent these days
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JumpCrisscross ◴[18 Jun 24 10:44 UTC] No.40716149[source]▶
> struggle to find someone halfway decent these days

Would you want to deal with those voters as, effectively, your boss?

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harha ◴[18 Jun 24 15:12 UTC] No.40718732[source]▶
I don’t think the voters are the problem. I think the established parties keep growing in all the worst ways, and I don’t think any decent candidate would be able to be successful in this setting.

Would happily work with voters to figure out a path forward.

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1. dTal ◴[18 Jun 24 19:45 UTC] No.40721450{3}[source]▶
And why are the established parties doing this? Why is it in their interest to keep advancing terrible candidates?

I dunno. I kinda do think voters are the problem. Or at least a link in a chain of problems, the next link up being corporate controlled media.

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2. harha ◴[19 Jun 24 15:55 UTC] No.40729475[source]▶
I'd say barriers to entry - being an established party gives you more revenue, supporters to do campaigning, influence, etc.

One place that tries to do it better in my opinion is Switzerland. It has a lot of controls to reduce the ability of politicians to act poorly and limits the power of higher levels (if something can be resolved well locally, there's no need to have a higher-level regulation). A lot of process is thought through and in place to enable direct voting on issues. Additionally, it has many levels to get engaged, which lowers the barriers to entry, by being able to have an impact on a local level.