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mro_name ◴[] No.40715944[source]
I wonder how it can be legal to repeatedly undermine constitution and push or vote for later high-court-nullified laws and be allowed to repeat as if nothing was wrong with that. Like drunk driving forever. We ban counter-constitutional activities outside parliament and authorities. Why not inside?

I am much for 3-strikes here.

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chopin ◴[] No.40716013[source]
0-strike. It should be expected that elected officials respect the constitution.
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dustfinger ◴[] No.40716066[source]
I agree with 0-strikes. Elect officials should be under constant investigation for any form of nefarious behavior and they should be prosecuted as any citzen would be.
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sneak ◴[] No.40716075[source]
Do you understand what would happen to the system if politicians could be prosecuted for proposing laws?
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1. mro_name ◴[] No.40716539{3}[source]
we germans learn in history lessons at school what can happen once a democratic process abolishes enough fundamental rights.
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2. sneak ◴[] No.40722252[source]
Yeah, meanwhile, you can't buy video games with too much blood in them now because the censorship ship has sailed. Banning the nazi salute and certain types of ideological publishing is treating the symptoms and not the disease. It doesn't fix the issue, and it involves a lot of collateral damage.

Germany has in fact abolished fundamental rights (i.e. free expression) in response to collective fear and guilt about WW2. It's an unforced own goal, just like the USA did to itself after 9/11. The worst possible response. It harms only those who shouldn't be harmed; German nazis will still be nazis quietly in basements, and everyone else in Germany who isn't a nazi is subject to media censorship. It's nonsense.

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3. mro_name ◴[] No.40726997[source]
that's not what I am talking about.

I talk about that today it's not allowed to abolish democracy which - believe it or not - was allowed and happened 1933.

See e.g. https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/gg/art_9.html