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Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

(threema.ch)
960 points andrew918277 | 4 comments | 18 Jun 24 08:49 UTC | HN request time: 0.855s | source
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anonzzzies ◴[18 Jun 24 10:06 UTC] No.40715888[source]▶
There are exemptions in the document and this article also talks about it; it would be good to know what tools we can use (p2p chat etc) that are exempt from this. I guess most people will blindly accept and won't care, but at least people can move if they do care (and possibly convince others).
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saurik ◴[18 Jun 24 10:38 UTC] No.40716103[source]▶
I would think a peer-to-peer system would not be exempt from this legislation, particularly given my understanding that the EU courts do not look favorably on gotcha-style analysis of laws that are limited to definitions of words used being twisted to claim "I'm unregulated". If you are a developer who works on a chat client as part of a decentralized service, I'd expect both you and all of the people running the network to suddenly become service providers subject to this law.
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1. cherryteastain ◴[18 Jun 24 11:14 UTC] No.40716366[source]▶
It's impossible for the EU to apply any meaningful enforcement action to a P2P encrypted chat system made by non EU citizen developers residing in a non EU country. Sure, the EU can declare your app is subject to this law, but then what?
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2. Hitton ◴[18 Jun 24 11:45 UTC] No.40716616[source]▶
Just not being available in app stores would effectively stop its usage.
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3. account42 ◴[19 Jun 24 10:00 UTC] No.40726696[source]▶
That is hardy going to be a factor. Most people are not going to care anyway and those that do will be able to install it without an app store.
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4. tekknik ◴[19 Jun 24 14:01 UTC] No.40728393{3}[source]▶
Those pesky seed servers will still exist though.