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Getting 50% (SoTA) on Arc-AGI with GPT-4o

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eigenvalue ◴[] No.40712174[source]
The Arc stuff just felt intuitively wrong as soon as I heard it. I don't find any of Chollet's critiques of LLMs to be convincing. It's almost as if he's being overly negative about them to make a point or something to push back against all the unbridled optimism. The problem is, the optimism really seems to be justified, and the rate of improvement of LLMs in the past 12 months has been nothing short of astonishing.

So it's not at all surprising to me to see Arc already being mostly solved using existing models, just with different prompting techniques and some tool usage. At some point, the naysayers about LLMs are going to have to confront the problem that, if they are right about LLMs not really thinking/understanding/being sentient, then a very large percentage of people living today are also not thinking/understanding/sentient!

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threeseed ◴[] No.40712304[source]
a) 50% result is not solving the problem. Especially when the implementation is brute forcing the problem and is against the spirit of ARC.

b) He is not being overly negative of LLMs. In fact he believes they will play a role in any AGI system.

c) OpenAI CTO has publicly said that ChatGPT 5 will not be significantly better than existing models. So the rate of improvements you believe in simply doesn't match reality.

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