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eigenvalue ◴[] No.40681204[source]
I really like how nvidia started doing more normal open source and not locking stuff behind a login to their website. It makes it so much easier now that you can just pip install all the cuda stuff for torch and other libraries without authenticating and downloading from websites and other nonsense. I guess they realized that it was dramatically reducing the engagement with their work. If it’s open source anyway then you should make it as accessible as possible.
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foresterre ◴[] No.40681256[source]
I would argue that this isn't "normal open source", though it is indeed not locked behind a login on their website. The license (1) is feels very much proprietary, even if the source code is available.

(1) https://github.com/NVIDIA/warp/blob/main/LICENSE.md

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bionhoward ◴[] No.40681695[source]
Agreed, especially given this

"2.7 You may not use the Software for the purpose of developing competing products or technologies or assist a third party in such activities."

vs

"California’s public policy provides that every contract that restrains anyone from engaging in a lawful profession, trade, or business of any kind is, to that extent, void, except under limited statutory exceptions."

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml...

(Owner/Partner who sold business, may voluntarily agree to a noncompete, (which is now federally https://www.ftc.gov/legal-library/browse/rules/noncompete-ru... banned) is the only exception I found).

I'm not a lawyer. Any lawyers around? Could the 2nd provision invalidate the 1st, or not?

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philipov ◴[] No.40682223[source]
You're free to engage in a lawful profession, just not using that Software for it. "to that extent" is not there merely for show.
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bionhoward ◴[] No.40682430[source]
Hey, that's a real argument, and it makes sense. Thank you for helping to clarify this topic.

Question: why would NVIDIA, makers of general intelligence, which seems to compete with everyone, publish code for software nobody can use without breaking NVIDIA rules? Wouldn't it be better for everyone if they just kept that code private?

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1. bionhoward ◴[] No.40682581[source]
ah, just found this license here for another NVIDIA product released today https://developer.download.nvidia.com/licenses/nvidia-open-m... this is way better