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udev4096 ◴[] No.40218468[source]
Just a side note: sudo is largely maintained by just one dude https://github.com/sudo-project/sudo/graphs/contributors
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m463 ◴[] No.40220140[source]
also worth mentioning: Lennart Poettering

"Poettering is known for having controversial technical and architectural positions regarding the Linux ecosystem"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennart_Poettering

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vaylian ◴[] No.40220317[source]
His positions are mostly controversial because he challenges the way things have been done for a long time. Whenever he presents some new idea/architecture my first reaction is often confusion. Why would he change something that has worked so well for such a long time? But then I take the time to read up on the reasoning behind his ideas and then things start to make sense. Even when something isn't exactly broken, there is still room for better solutions.
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lupusreal ◴[] No.40221105[source]
He's controversial because numerous times his ego has so severely clouded his judgemental that he refuses to see egregious bugs in his programs for what they are. Just one example: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237#issuecomment-...

The "people hate him because he makes new stuff" narrative is just more ego-protecting cope. Many developers of other new systems are widely respected and appreciated because their stuff works and they stay humble. Wireguard and Pipewire devs don't get hate poured on them in HN discussions because their shit works, solves problems people have, and because they know how to deal with people.

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magicalhippo ◴[] No.40221401[source]
Or in Linus Torvalds' words[1]:

It does become a problem when you have a system service developer who thinks the universe revolves around him, and nobody else matters, and people sending him bug-reports are annoyances that should be ignored rather than acknowledged and fixed. At that point, it's a problem.

[1]: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/580

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calvinmorrison ◴[] No.40222332[source]
But even then, system service developers don't try to 'own the whole world' so to speak and so they do need to play nicely with others. Mr. Poopering philosophy is the minute a dependencies maintainer becomes a thorn in his side - he absorbs that project into systemd. The distribution packagers follow like starving dogs on a hunt
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1. j0057 ◴[] No.40224347[source]
> Mr. Poopering

This is childish and petty, I suggest you delete your account.

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2. etc-hosts ◴[] No.40224437[source]
You can't delete your HN account.
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3. calvinmorrison ◴[] No.40224458[source]
No thanks!
4. j0057 ◴[] No.40226413[source]
Interesting! IANAL, but I think this should be basic functionality, ever since the recent-ish European and Californian privacy regulations. Although I think a quick e-mail to hn@ycombinator.com would suffice.
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5. Aerbil313 ◴[] No.40230649{3}[source]
Would it really? Asking cause genuinely curious, literally the only online forum I can't remove my past public information from is HN.
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6. udev4096 ◴[] No.40233025{4}[source]
Even if you delete your account, it wouldn't really matter that much. Whole HN is probably crawled and archived on a daily basis due to a simplistic API