Most active commenters
  • flawsofar(7)
  • mattmaroon(5)
  • kelseyfrog(4)
  • rayiner(3)
  • eurleif(3)

←back to thread

662 points JacobHenner | 19 comments | | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
Show context
mannyv ◴[] No.40214223[source]
One major effect of this is that weed stores will be able to use banks and payment processors legally once the regulators catch up.
replies(17): >>40214302 #>>40214371 #>>40214681 #>>40214723 #>>40214802 #>>40214840 #>>40215087 #>>40215094 #>>40215242 #>>40215259 #>>40215926 #>>40216092 #>>40216174 #>>40217047 #>>40217090 #>>40218919 #>>40227379 #
andrewxdiamond ◴[] No.40214371[source]
A lot of them have wiggled around this problem by offering “atms” at the cash register. You pay with a debit card, but it’s not a normal transaction, it’s an ATM withdrawal! I don’t understand how the money is vended to the business, but it keeps it out of the store
replies(8): >>40214632 #>>40214642 #>>40214762 #>>40214782 #>>40214788 #>>40214845 #>>40217657 #>>40218370 #
bobthepanda ◴[] No.40214788[source]
there is still a lot of cash on site due to the presence of an ATM though, and in the cash registers. the primary problem is that weed shops are incredibly attractive robbery targets due to being one of the few businesses in 2024 that handle large amounts of cash.
replies(4): >>40214821 #>>40214926 #>>40216043 #>>40217348 #
mattmaroon ◴[] No.40216043[source]
My brother supervises at a dispensary. They are not attractive robbery targets at all. They have a lot of security. Like a bank, they expect the amount of cash would bring trouble if they were not prepared. Unlike a bank, they don't dispense much cash (just petty change) so they don't even have to leave much in the drawers, which are emptied frequently and dropped into a safe nobody there can access.

They have cash-handling processes similar to a casino, but again, they have much less than a casino or bank to take.

Employee theft is a much bigger problem than robbery, because you can imagine who works at them, but even then, it's hard to get away with.

You'd be much better off robbing a busy gas station or the like.

replies(3): >>40216199 #>>40216348 #>>40216757 #
flawsofar ◴[] No.40216199[source]
> you can imagine who works at them

This is disgracefully elitist. White collar crime hurts more people.

replies(4): >>40216652 #>>40218302 #>>40218969 #>>40219102 #
mattmaroon ◴[] No.40218302[source]
I see why you would say that, but you probably have not met very many people who work at a dispensary, I have. My brother got promoted to supervisor in a month for the simple reason that he is the only person who could wait until after work to get high.

He’s told me quite a bit of what goes on there, and I am sure different dispensaries are different, but in any state where it is relatively recently legalized and there aren’t that many, it’s just the biggest stoners working there. You would have to be kind of special to decide to steal things with that much security around, they always get caught

replies(2): >>40218967 #>>40220333 #
flawsofar ◴[] No.40218967[source]
I as a customer an hour ago had a long conversation with a friend I made behind the counter.

Some software engineers do partake of the weed. So yeah I’ve met them.

Tattoos, piercings? They’re just people.

Getting high isn’t a sign of larceny

replies(1): >>40219138 #
1. mattmaroon ◴[] No.40219138[source]
I didn’t say it was. I just said employee theft is a bigger problem than robbery.
replies(1): >>40219951 #
2. kelseyfrog ◴[] No.40219951[source]
> you can imagine who works at them

You might want to be more careful then. This empty space is a well known rhetorical device used to allude that you're making a negative judgement about people.

replies(2): >>40221445 #>>40221705 #
3. mattmaroon ◴[] No.40221445[source]
What it meant was, if you work at a place with all the cash controls of a casino, you have to be stoned to steal petty cash from them. You’re going to get caught, and you’re going to get a felony over a small amount of money. Nobody sober does that.

It was not meant as “all stoners are thieves” but as “you’d have to be high to think that’s a good idea”. And since nearly everyone who works at a dispensary is high all day every day, it happens, a lot more than armed robbery which almost never does.

replies(1): >>40222661 #
4. flawsofar ◴[] No.40222652{3}[source]
Don’t bully people for smoking a plant. Easy.
replies(1): >>40229095 #
5. flawsofar ◴[] No.40222661{3}[source]
This is like a tour of logical fallacies. How about some data?
replies(1): >>40224158 #
6. mattmaroon ◴[] No.40224158{4}[source]
I don’t think there is much data to be had, at least public. But I can tell you in the 5 years my brother has been there, they have had zero armed robbery attempts, and several employee theft attempts. And a quick Google about whether dispensaries get robbed frequently will show you people from the industry saying the same thing.

But no, no data, only anecdotes. Still, I feel like only somebody who has never been in a dispensary would think they are attractive robbery target. I’ve been in them and maybe 10 states, and they are all pretty tight Security, because they know they have a lot of cash and people would like to steal it.

7. rayiner ◴[] No.40229095{4}[source]
Why? Society doesn’t owe you acceptance for your personal choices. For the vast majority of people, smoking marijuana is an anti-social choice that makes them a less productive member of society. Why should anyone have something other than a negative opinion of such a choice?
replies(2): >>40230913 #>>40231492 #
8. kelseyfrog ◴[] No.40230913{5}[source]
Judging people is wrong. This isn't a controversial statement.
replies(2): >>40230936 #>>40232114 #
9. eurleif ◴[] No.40230936{6}[source]
"Wrong" is a judgment. Why are you judging people for judging people?
replies(1): >>40231716 #
10. flawsofar ◴[] No.40231492{5}[source]
What if being productive to society is actually harmful?
replies(2): >>40232119 #>>40232124 #
11. kelseyfrog ◴[] No.40231716{7}[source]
If you're arguing that judging people is ok, I think you could do a better job than tu quoque.
replies(1): >>40232967 #
12. rayiner ◴[] No.40232114{6}[source]
No it's not. Judging people is extremely important in order to enforce social conformity and norms. It's how we as social animals maintain civilization.
replies(1): >>40319070 #
13. ◴[] No.40232119{6}[source]
14. rayiner ◴[] No.40232124{6}[source]
It's not. It's why you're not living in a hut, or worse.
replies(1): >>40319057 #
15. eurleif ◴[] No.40232967{8}[source]
"You judged someone on a separate occasion, so you can't object to judging people now" would be tu quoque. What I actually did was point out the internal contradiction in your stated position.
replies(1): >>40242930 #
16. kelseyfrog ◴[] No.40242930{9}[source]
Sorry, I just don't think that arguing that it's ok to judge people is viable. It seems to be very important to you, however.
replies(1): >>40243064 #
17. eurleif ◴[] No.40243064{10}[source]
I've said a total of four sentences on the matter, none of which hinted at its importance or lack thereof to me, so it's interesting that you've come to that conclusion. Either way, my internal motivations are a non sequitur. You are continuing to take a self-contradictory position by stating that a certain behavior, namely judgment, is not "ok", which constitutes a judgment. You have offered no defense of doing so. Should I conclude that you simply believe that oxymoronic positions can in fact be correct?
18. flawsofar ◴[] No.40319057{7}[source]
Those who build weapons to kill children, then, are productivity heroes.
19. flawsofar ◴[] No.40319070{7}[source]
Please tell me more about your desire to “civilize” people through conformity to your chosen social norms