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662 points JacobHenner | 2 comments | 30 Apr 24 17:32 UTC | HN request time: 0.425s | source
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paxys ◴[30 Apr 24 18:27 UTC] No.40214410[source]▶
On one hand I'm very happy with all the recent policy changes coming down from different federal agencies, but on the other there's a very high likelihood that they will all be reversed a few months from now if/when a new administration takes over. That is always the downside of executive rule. With Congress unwilling/incapable of acting though I guess this is the best we'll get.
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treflop ◴[30 Apr 24 18:45 UTC] No.40214636[source]▶
Maybe, maybe not. Support for the legalization of marijuana has consistently only gone up for 50 years and even more than half of conservatives supported it in 2023: https://news.gallup.com/poll/514007/grassroots-support-legal...

You typically see flip flop rulings on issues that half the country actually does not support.

Abortion is probably the biggest issue and that's because a lot of the country does not support it and this has not substantially changed in over 50 years: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

Another contentious issue has been gay marriage but support for that has only risen over the years (although much more slowly), so generally that is another issue that I don't expect much flip flopping on: https://news.gallup.com/poll/506636/sex-marriage-support-hol...

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consumer451 ◴[30 Apr 24 19:50 UTC] No.40215482[source]▶
> Abortion is probably the biggest issue and that's because a lot of the country does not support it and this has not substantially changed in over 50 years: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

I'm sorry, am I reading the data incorrectly, or your comment incorrectly?

> Do you think abortions should be legal under any circumstances, legal only under certain circumstances, or illegal in all circumstances?

> 2023 | 34(any) 51(some) 13(illegal) 2(no opinion)

According these data, the vast, vast majority of Americans support the right to abortion, correct?

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dingnuts ◴[30 Apr 24 20:33 UTC] No.40215961[source]▶
the wording of the questions aren't good, but the states that have recently banned it certainly seem to be catering to the 13% who say illegal under all circumstances, due to the extremeness of the actual laws passed

before Roe was overturned I would have considered myself pro life because I don't believe in late term abortions, but with the new legal landscape I've become effectively pro choice because the new laws are so extreme that they ban life saving health care that has little to do with the life of the unborn

I wonder how many are like me

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1. consumer451 ◴[30 Apr 24 20:37 UTC] No.40216027[source]▶
> I wonder how many are like me

I believe there are many, on "both sides."

I deeply appreciate your reply. This is extremely important.

The wording is what it's all about. When we put it into terms like "pro-life"/"pro-choice" - it does nothing to address the hard realities which need to be addressed when writing law.

We all keep getting played by yes/no, right/left, binary word game slogans. The realities are so much more complex.

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2. Jerrrry ◴[04 May 24 16:26 UTC] No.40258673[source]▶

  > I wonder how many are like me
The silent majority, given the numbers cited above and general consensus.

  >I deeply appreciate your reply. This is extremely important.
Ditto.

  >The wording is what it's all about. When we put it into terms like "pro-life"/"pro-choice" - it does nothing to address the hard realities which need to be addressed when writing law.
The "clump of cells" term is equally as provocative as "baby-killer"; remember to emphasize with both positions. Neither are wrong.

  >We all keep getting played by yes/no, right/left, binary word game slogans. The realities are so much more complex.
Correct. But to clarify - there isn't one "player" controlling the strings (if only we could be so lucky,) but warring ideological/political/corporate oligarchs that have consolidated power as an emergent phenomenon of self-interested parties.

This settles into a duopoly, with periodic swings depending on macro-level events, as naturally both sides align with a "good" and the other "bad" in an all-relative social moral grandstanding power contest.

90%+ of abortions are essentially birth control.

The moral, social, political, biological, religious, physiological, cultural, and constitutional subjectivity of the matter juxtaposed against the objective nature of (current) (nominal) child-birth is easily the most difficult topic to reach common ground between the most vocal extremes.

All the while, most people agree late-term, medically unnecessary abortions are abhorrent.