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kbar13 ◴[] No.40208219[source]
systemd has been a net positive for the linux ecosystem. remember when you had to write bash scripts to start, stop, restart services and handle any other signals you want to send it? nowadays it's a unit file (basically just an ini file) away with relatively straightforward API. and you can actually declare startup dependencies and other useful relationships past just "prepend a number signifying when it should run globally to the front of the filename". it's provided an extensible platform with which higher level orchestration frameworks like ansible / ignition can easily templatize services or other system configuration.

since the beginning of systemd people have moaned about how complex it is and how we're reinventing the wheel. yet time and time again the people actually working on the project show that the solution they've come up with is the result of the problem they're facing on a daily basis. it's quite annoying that the armchair linux experts complain about how "lol systemd is so stupid for reinventing the wheel, give me my shell scripts back", maybe think about whether or not you have a legitimate issue not being addressed by the solution proposed or if you are just getting rage baited by a headline.

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paulddraper ◴[] No.40215163[source]
100%

Systemd unit files make Linux feel like a rational OS.

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1. slackfan ◴[] No.40215284[source]
Only if your marker for a rational OS is NT.
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2. delta_p_delta_x ◴[] No.40215989[source]
Not the parent commenter. Windows has a lot of rubbish user-level interaction which belie how good an OS NT really is. Anyone who blindly disses it because 'Windoze' and 'M$ bad' is not really worthy of any attention whatsoever.
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3. slackfan ◴[] No.40217394[source]
NT isn't terrible with some very well designed systems, that is quite true. It is however good for a completely different list of reasons that *nix is. Trying to conflate the two is a pottering's errand.