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wkat4242 ◴[30 Apr 24 01:08 UTC] No.40206210[source]▶
I'm really starting to hate the sub-community in Linux that tries to constantly change it.

I don't want to learn a new network config alternative with every update (Ubuntu changed its net config tool again with 24.04). I don't want an immutable os. I don't want to learn to write new config files. I just want to do what I've been doing but with new packages. If there's a problem with something, just fix it. Don't throw out the whole thing.

I moved to FreeBSD and am happy for its reluctance to change. If there is any, it's usually offering something genuinely new to me as a feature and to boot I only need to learn about it if I need it.

Hardware support is much lower but it's worth it IMO. I had the same irritation with macOS. Every release breaking something essential that was part of my workflow and i didn't want to change. Eventually I did change but away from Apple.

I don't want to change to LennartOS either.

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hasselhoftd ◴[30 Apr 24 01:19 UTC] No.40206267[source]▶
Agreed. I've taken to treating my linux installs like I used to treat Windows: no internet access expect application specific.

For example, I run a Visionfive 2 OpenBSD install with squid, everything else has to go through that.

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1. cyberpunk ◴[30 Apr 24 19:22 UTC] No.40215121[source]▶
Curious why squid and not pf?
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2. Khaine ◴[30 Apr 24 23:10 UTC] No.40217589[source]▶
squid is a http(s) proxy and pf is a firewall. They do not do the same thing.
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3. cyberpunk ◴[01 May 24 04:45 UTC] No.40219594[source]▶
I assumed it wasn’t doing tls interception as simply using it to allow/disallow internet traffic from various internal hosts — pf works for that also.

Relayd also does a bunch of similar things and is closely integrated with pf too..

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4. Khaine ◴[01 May 24 05:55 UTC] No.40219987{3}[source]▶
That's fair. I assumed he was using squid to filter/block ads and dodgy websites. You can also kind of do this with pf, but not as well.
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5. cyberpunk ◴[01 May 24 07:33 UTC] No.40220508{4}[source]▶
I use openbsd for that purpose also, but with unbound :}
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6. Khaine ◴[01 May 24 11:27 UTC] No.40221847{5}[source]▶
I used to do something similar with pf, unbound, and squid but on freebsd.